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- From: "Dieter Mitternacht" <dieter.mitternacht AT teol.lu.se>
- To: "Corpus-Paul" <corpus-paul AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: RE: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?
- Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:29:48 +0100
Since the discussion (as ever so often) has come to
the core question, I would like to include Gal 3 in the discussion (if anyone is
interested), especially the part about the Nomos having a beginning and an
end(?) with the coming of Christ. In sum, the
nomos was given 430 years after the promise, which was given to Abraham. The
purpose of the nomos was to be OUR (Paul says) peadagog until the
Seed would come, who(sic!) is the Messiah (vv.19, 24). With the coming of the
faithfulness of Christ (pistis christou), the old pedagog is no longer required
(v 25).
There are a number of issues here one could
discuss. I would like to invite you to probe the following with me:
Many take the preposition UNTIL (eis) in Gal 3:24
as temporal, assuming the idea of a nomos-period that comes to an end
with Christ. Since Paul is referring to those who were held prisoners
under the nomos before pistis came, and uses the pronoun "we", I
suppose we should assume that he has those in mind that were under the law
during the timespan from Sinai to Golgatha, i.e. Jews.
The temporal view of "until" was introduced in
reaction to the Lutheran position that the law
was and always is a promoter of Christ (pedagogos hemon eis Christon, "unser
Zuchtmeister auf Christum"), in terms of showing the failure of
worksrighteousness and encouraging "pure" trust in the grace of God.
I would like to hear your comments on the
following. Accepting the subjective genitive for pistis Christou, one could
argue that the faithfulness of Christ in his submission to the will of God
even unto death on a cross, in Paul's view, was the ultimate realisation of
the purpose of the nomos. If the nomos taught submission to the will of God,
Christ both taught and lived it. Now if the nomos and the Christ in fact
have the same purpose, the nomos may be superceded by the Christ but not in
contrary but in complementary fashion. The purpose of both the nomos and of
Christ is to teach submission to the will of the God with whom "we" have entered
into a covenantal relationship, some earlier, some later. The Messianic age
of course brings with it new blessings, e.g. Jer 31:33), but again the
difference is not law contra grace or works contra faith, but the nomos and
Christ accomplishing the same purpose (with Christ being superior to the nomos,
in Paul's view). Once this reading of the schema of Gal 3 is entertained,
doesn't that make the discussion of whether "until" is temporary or timeless
almost superfluous?
Dieter Mitternacht
Lund University, Sweden
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RE: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?
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RE: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Lee Dahn, 01/12/2005
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RE: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Jim West, 01/12/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
rabbisaul, 01/12/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Jim West, 01/12/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Mark D. Nanos, 01/12/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Jim West, 01/12/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Jim West, 01/12/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
rabbisaul, 01/12/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Mark D. Nanos, 01/12/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Jim West, 01/12/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Mark D. Nanos, 01/12/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Jim West, 01/12/2005
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RE: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Lee Dahn, 01/13/2005
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RE: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Dieter Mitternacht, 01/13/2005
- RE: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Harold R. Holmyard III, 01/13/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Jeffrey B. Gibson, 01/13/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Dieter Mitternacht, 01/13/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Harold R. Holmyard III, 01/13/2005
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RE: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Dieter Mitternacht, 01/13/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Mark D. Nanos, 01/13/2005
- [Corpus-Paul] Law-Observant Mission to the Gentiles, John Brand, 01/14/2005
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RE: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Jim West, 01/12/2005
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RE: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Lee Dahn, 01/12/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?,
Calvin McCain, 01/12/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Paul break the Law?, Harold R. Holmyard III, 01/12/2005
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