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- From: Jim West <jwest AT highland.net>
- To: Corpus-paul <corpus-paul AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Jesus and death
- Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 19:41:34 -0400
At 06:51 PM 7/1/00 -0400, you wrote:
>I wanted to know if Paul thought that Jesus, being sinless, would never die,
>would live forever as a human being, walking around on earth still today, if
>he [Jesus] had not voluntarily given himself up to death.
again- theres no way to know because Paul never says.
in any event the sinlessness of jesus is open to interpretation. for
instance, when he passed through the fields on the sabbath and ate stuff he
picked off (the gospels cleverly present it as though it was only the
disciples that did it....), he was CERTAINLY breaking the sabbath
commandment. in that respect, he sinned (at least so far as judaism is
concerned).
i re-submit for your further consideration something i suggested a while
back now: we read Paul through Augustinian and Lutheran eyes... and we
thereby presume that Augustine and Luther were right in their understanding
of Paul. But were they? I seriously doubt it.
>
>This seems to be the implication of Dunn's discussion of Christ as Adam
>in Phil. 2:6ff, if I understand it correctly. Do I understand it
>correctly???
Dunn reads Paul with the glasses of Luther and Augustine too.....
Small wonder he sounds so very much like them.
jim
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Re: Jesus and death
, (continued)
- Re: Jesus and death, Jim West, 07/01/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Liz Fried, 07/01/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Jeffrey B. Gibson, 07/01/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Jeffrey B. Gibson, 07/01/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Frank W. Hughes, 07/01/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Jim West, 07/01/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Jim West, 07/01/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Frank W. Hughes, 07/01/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Liz Fried, 07/01/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Liz Fried, 07/01/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Jim West, 07/01/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Jim West, 07/01/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Frank W. Hughes, 07/01/2000
- Re: Jesus and Death, RSBrenchley, 07/02/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Liz Fried, 07/02/2000
- RE: Jesus and death, Bob MacDonald, 07/02/2000
- RE: Jesus and death, Jeffrey B. Gibson, 07/02/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, JERRY SUMNEY, 07/03/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Edgar Krentz, 07/03/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Edgar Krentz, 07/03/2000
- Re: Jesus and death, Jeffrey B. Gibson, 07/03/2000
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