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  • From: James Hepler <jameshepler AT yahoo.com>
  • To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: confused curmudeon gets it all wrong (was NOTICE: alarmist hits your inbox)
  • Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:31:35 -0800 (PST)

To change the subject a litle bit, I've always found
it fascinating how my North Carolinian brethren and
sistren love so much to use Starbucks as the symbol of
everything that's bad about the world while munching
happily on Krispy Kreme doughnuts.

--- Caleb Southern <southernc AT mindspring.com> wrote:

> Rick Sawyer wrote:
> >first of all, i know that you sit on the durham
> city board of zoning.
>
> Correct. I am a member of the Durham Planning
> Commission.
>
>
> Rick Sawyer wrote:
> >i therefore find the fact that you cannot explain
> the zoning change
> >proposed by commisioner reckhow without waving your
> arms to be...
> >disheartening.
>
> I posted the Herald-Sun article, and referred to the
> comments of Durham
> Planning Director Frank Duke. He is certainly an
> expert on zoning issues. I
> would also generally associate myself with the
> comments of County
> Commissioner Lewis Cheek, as reported in the Herald.
>
>
> Rick Sawyer wrote:
> >finally, i checked the company you keep. you sit
> on the board of downtown
> >durham, inc.,
>
> Correct. DDI does some things that I agree with, and
> some others that I do
> not. I joined this board in an attempt to influence
> the policy positions of
> this organization from the inside. I am one of two
> downtown residents who
> sit on this 41 member board. There are about three
> small business owners on
> this board - only one of which is a retailer.
>
> I could sit on the outside and express opinions
> about DDI when I disagree
> with them, or I could sit on the board and try to
> influence the direction of
> this organization from the inside.
>
> On this particular issue, my views happen to be very
> different from many
> others at DDI.
>
>
> Rick Sawyer wrote:
> >and it seemed as if your call to "ACTION" came, in
> part, directly from that
> >organization.
>
> Dead wrong.
>
> My call to action was a direct *REACTION* to
> positions long expressed by
> some staff and some board members within DDI,
> advocating for additional
> regulation of entertainment businesses. Similar
> comments from the Chair of
> the Durham Board of County Commissioners reinforced
> this position.
>
> There is another perspective on downtown zoning
> issues and entertainment. I
> will likely be the only representative on the board
> of this organization
> expressing this side of the issue - being to leave
> zoning ordinances the way
> they are.
>
> This issue is an example of one reason I chose to
> join this board -- to
> express points of view that would otherwise not be
> represented.
>
>
> Rick Sawyer wrote:
> >i checked it out, and it [DDI] seems to me to be a
> collection of banks and
> >corporations, with a smattering of nonprofit types.
> these are the groups
> >that brought us the american tobacco campus, a
> starbucks, and a wonderful
> >brown river that runs straight toward the heart of
> downtown.
>
> Correct.
>
> Would you rather someone like myself, with a
> different perspective than the
> aforementioned, *NOT* be on the DDI board?
>
>
> Rick Sawyer wrote:
> >on what basis should i trust such a group? as rich
> (mostly) white
> >men, they aren't responsible to me. they are
> responsible to their
> >shareholders.
>
> The position I have taken on this zoning issue is
> unpopular with many at
> DDI.
>
>
> Rick Sawyer wrote:
> >so, i'm supposed to swallow it when they pump out
> some theory about our
> >elected officials entering into cabal against
> downtown development?
>
> Again, your understanding of the various positions
> and who is pushing them
> is incorrect.
>
> As I stated, the position coming from some at DDI
> and the positions reported
> in the paper from Commissioner Reckhow (which she
> has since backed away
> from) were generally consistent -- more zoning
> regulation that would further
> restrict entertainment businesses in downtown
> Durham.
>
> This is the issue of relevance and interest to this
> list.
>
> The position I am advocating (in favor of the status
> quo zoning allowing
> downtown entertainment, and against further
> regulation) is the exact
> opposite of what is coming from some at DDI and
> originally reported as that
> of Ellen Reckhow.
>
>
> ***
>
> Rick,
>
> It is bizarre that you continue to falsely
> characterize me as representing
> some of the very positions that I oppose. What kind
> of strange conspiracy
> theory world do you live in?
>
>
>
>
> -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors
> alt.music.chapel-hill --
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
>


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