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  • From: drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>
  • To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Parallel Distribution and Non-Copyleft Licenses
  • Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 15:20:56 -0500

On Saturday 02 December 2006 03:08 pm, James Grimmelmann wrote:
> drew Roberts wrote:
> > On Saturday 02 December 2006 11:55 am, James Grimmelmann wrote:
> >> That is, with software, you need source code in order to
> >> make full use of the relevant freedoms; with many other sorts of works,
> >> you do not need the source code to enjoy those freedoms.
> >
> > I disagree with this strongly. I just feel that it is next to impossible
> > to properly express such a "source" requirement in simple language and so
> > have to content myself to live without it.
>
> With an oil painting, a "source" requirement would be not just difficult
> to express but impossible to implement. This is not a problem of
> definitions. It would be ridiculous to ask a painter to make a
> "modifiable" version available.
>
> > We are in fact much poorer for nat having the source though.
> >
> > James, please answer this for me. Why do you insist that it is essential
> > to allow my works to be used on a platform where only the blessed can put
> > them there? (I will by the way, at this point, allow mine on there if the
> > blessed will pay for the use of my works.)
>
> It is not essential. It is merely a good idea and more consistent with
> Creative Commons's goals than the alternative currently under discussion.

So, it is not essential. Would you compromise on all-applied TPM with
paralled
distribution?

Personally, I don't rate the goals of Creative Commons that highly wrt
Freedom, they happily endorse NC and ND and will not respond to my repeated
requests for at least some feedback re a Free Commons logo and distinction.

I am here because I think BY-SA and BY are worthwhile.

I think BY-SA with no parallel distribution and anti-TPM is much more Free
and
in keeping with my goals than is BY-NC-ND which allows and DRM along with
parallel distribution.

But that's just me.
>
> James

all the best,

drew
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