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- From: Francesco Poli <frx AT firenze.linux.it>
- To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Source Requirements
- Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 17:30:23 +0100
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 15:10:00 -0500 Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> I think it's always
> important and frequently very easy to include a source requirement for
> non-software.
>
> In fact, I have used the GPL for many non-software works; nobody
> confuses a PDF or a printed copy of a book with the "preferred form
> for modification." When I, as the author, want to make a change to a
> work, I pick up one copy and not the other. It's not hard for me to
> make that distinction in most cases and it wouldn't be hard for a
> judge to either.
>
> In practice, there are very troubling corner cases that open space for
> disagreement. There are some in software too (look at the discussion
> around the nv driver now). However, there is a larger number of works
> for which we don't require source through CC licenses where doing so
> would be both useful and easy.
100 % agreement (assuming you mean "program code", when you say
"software"[1]).
Just to explain further, for any piece of information that can be
processed by computer systems[2], there can be more than one form and
all of them are modifiable[3]. The GNU GPL defines "source code" as the
preferred form for modifications. Quoting from the GNU GPL v2:
| The source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for
| making modifications to it.
Among the possible forms of a work, there always is one that is
preferred[4] for making modifications to the work.
[1] I instead use the term "software" in a broader sense
[2] which is, more or less, what I call "software", BTW
[3] if you have a file, you can modify it, even if it's a binary
executable (maybe you need to go through difficult steps with a hex
editor, but it's still possible!)
[4] or, at least, one non-empty set of equivalently preferred forms
--
But it is also tradition that times *must* and always
do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_
..................................................... Francesco Poli .
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Re: [cc-licenses] Fwd: Parallel Distribution and Non-Copyleft Licenses
, (continued)
- Re: [cc-licenses] Fwd: Parallel Distribution and Non-Copyleft Licenses, Benj. Mako Hill, 12/07/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Parallel Distribution and Non-Copyleft Licenses, James Grimmelmann, 12/03/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Parallel Distribution and Non-Copyleft Licenses, Greg London, 12/02/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Parallel Distribution and Non-Copyleft Licenses, James Grimmelmann, 12/03/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Parallel Distribution and Non-Copyleft Licenses,
James Grimmelmann, 12/02/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Parallel Distribution and Non-Copyleft Licenses, drew Roberts, 12/02/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Parallel Distribution and Non-Copyleft Licenses, James Grimmelmann, 12/02/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Source Requirements, drew Roberts, 12/02/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Source Requirements, Francesco Poli, 12/03/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Source Requirements, Greg London, 12/03/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Parallel Distribution and Non-Copyleft Licenses, James Grimmelmann, 12/02/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Parallel Distribution and Non-Copyleft Licenses, Terry Hancock, 12/04/2006
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