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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007, baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org wrote:

> Message from Steven
> ===================
> Sindi wrote:
> > > > I think Opera has its own fonts.  Does Abiword also
> > > > use the X fonts?
> > >
> > > AbiWord has its own fonts.
> >
> > Neither of these fits well in the loop version
>
> I'm pretty sure Opera and AbiWord each fit into the
> 20mb loop (DOS version) -- but not both at the same
> time.  You might remember that originally the loop
> file was 16mb.  IIRC, the reason I increased it to
> 20mb was so that AbiWord could be installed.

Opera also keeps getting bigger.

> > > I expect most users will eventually install a full set
> > > of fonts from Slackware.  The default fonts in BL3 are
> > > *very* minimalistic.
> >
> > Nearly 3MB - rather large for the loop version.
>
> Yeah, the standard font packages are pretty bulky.
> Lots and lots of data, most of it never used.

I would remove most of it in BL2 but then fonts.dir and fonts.alias would 
probably need to be redone.  Could I just replace bl2 fonts with the bl3 
setup (but the full-size fonts)?  When would anyone want more than the BL3 
fonts, to see larger text at higher X resolutions?  I don't care what the 
fonts look like so long as they are legible.


> > setfont has apparently been removed since BL3
> > and is 22K (glibc).  showfont is 5K.  xev 15K.
>
> Don't forget the dependencies for those executables.
> Some require hundreds of kilobytes of libraries.

showfont and setfont only libc/ld-linux
Are they of any use if you don't add additional console fonts?
If not, you may as well download the kbd package and extract them.

> > Does jwm use Type1 and magicpoint 100dpi or vice versa?
> > Why two scaleable fonts?
>
> There is only one scaleable font in BL3.  Both jwm
> and magicpoint use it.

Type1 is symlinked to 100dpi.

> > Does the Slackware fonts package include scaleable fonts?
>
> Not in xfnts.tgz
>
> > I don't see .pfb or .pfa fonts there, just .pcf ones.
>
> Look in xfscl.tgz

scl - scalable

What other X programs need scaleable X fonts?

Opera and Abiword obviously not.

xv and xpdf work without them - do they have their own fonts too?
xpdf is now up to 8MB and xv is 1.2MB.

> Cheers, Steven

Sindi