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On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 06:28:20AM +1200, Steven wrote:
> 
> You never mentioned that you wanted to run an
> xterm.  Initially, you wanted something to auto-
> run your mgp presentation.  I gave you a method
> for doing that.  You didn't like that because
> it restricted you to one specific presentation.

I assumed having access to an xterm would fall under the rubric of the 
"normal" BL X session I was trying to define as 
one of my goals. In web communications one should try to keep assumptions to 
a minimum, but sometimes they creep in 
unawares.

To clarify about the beginnings of this thread, here's an excerpt from my 
initial post: "I want Xvesa to start 
immediately upon booting BL3. I know I should be editing /etc/inittab to get 
this to happen (that's how Steven did it 
for one of his presentations, as documented in the archive)." I never wanted 
to run mgp on boot-up, just Xvesa. I never 
stated that starting mgp immediately was my goal. The only thing I found in 
the archive that seemed relevant to my 
intention of starting Xvesa on boot-up was a post in which you talked about 
booting straight into Xvesa and starting up 
mgp. But I never said that's what I was trying to do (I only ever wrote about 
starting Xvesa). I can see how some 
confusion could arise regarding this. But I do want to stress that my aim was 
never to start mgp when booting into the 
gui and I never stated that my goal was such. A careful rereading of my posts 
on this subject should indicate that.

> I then gave you a method for starting icewm
> (which I though you were using).  You didn't
> like that because you wanted the default wm,
> background and menu.  So I gave you a method
> for doing that.

I have nothing against icewm and really like it better than swm. But I'm 
trying to not get into alot of additional 
tweaking on this machine. It will be dedicated to mgp presentations and I'm 
intending to use it almost solely for that. 
So I haven't installed icewm, but only those add-ons that I find necessary to 
creating or editing my presentations 
(nano, mc, imagick). I'd like to keep it as vanilla as possible apart from 
those.

> It's easy to avoid the xterm problem (by making
> it an non-login-shell in /usr/share/swm/menu.sh)
> but then you'll probably complain that it's 
> missing the environment established by /etc/profile.

Could be. It seems like that behavior would not be along the lines of the 
"normal" BL gui environment as I've been 
trying to define that, and that I've set forth as my goal.

> The best solution was probably my icewm suggestion
> with jwm instead of icewm.  The swm+MENU kludge 
> (used for BasicLinux 3.40) is best avoided.

I'm willing to add an alternate wm if that will enable me to get the 
normal(ish) BL gui environment I've been aiming at 
when BL boots. Is it possible to add jwm? Or would you recommend adding icewm 
as the simplest way of achieving the goal 
I'm aiming for?

Thanks,
James