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["David Moberg" <davidjmoberg AT lycos.com>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "sindi keesan" <keesan AT sdf.lonestar.org>
 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "sindi keesan" <keesan AT sdf.lonestar.org>
> >
> > My Internet connection was down Saturday and most of today. I
> > just now found a different phone number which works.

I should have said "yesterday" instead of Saturday, since many of
us live on the other side of the International Date Line.

> /usr/X11R6/bin/X - gives me the X screen (no icewm).  The mouse works.
> On exit I get the same SpeedUps selected stuff.

Likely just warnings. Pipe them to /dev/null (with "2>/dev/null" or
">/dev/null" added to the end) if they annoy you.

> It also works if I change .xinitrc to leave only the line about
> exec icewm  (no &)  and type either startx or xinit.

It is the combination of exec (which should be on the last line)
and & (which should be on every line _except_ the last line) which
caused the problem. xinit (and by extension startx) waits for the
last program listed in xinitrc to quit. Since the last program had
an & at the end, xinit thought that it had finished and dutifully
killed X.

> I don't need the part about touch in startx.

Because it created the file the first time, and there is no need
to touch it afterwards.

> Or the export DISPLAY in .xinitrc.

xinit handles this for you.

> Or the SecurityPolicy file (I renamed it).

I saw some suggestion that this was merely a warning. I wanted to
be absolutely sure that this wasn't the problem, however.

> Or the Clocks line.

I was completely wrong about this one.

> The only required changes seem to have been to horizsyn, 
> vertrefresh, and modeline.

> >> # File generated by xf86config.
> >>
> >> Section "Files"
> >>
> >>
> >>      RgbPath       "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
> >>
> >>
> >>      FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
> >>      FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
> >>      FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
> >>      FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
> >>
> 
> > This is not a problem. X will still run as long as it can
> > find the "fixed" and "cursor" fonts, which are usually in
> > misc.

KDrive has these two fonts (plus two more fixed-size ones)
built in (usually. you can also leave them out when you're
building KDrive. The only binary I know of which does this
is the one which comes with 1diskx. It has a very tiny font
collection to allow it to run). So, ordinarily Xvesa will not
need any external fonts.

> >> Section "Monitor"
> >>
> >>      Identifier  "compaq"
> >>      VendorName  "compaq"
> >>      ModelName   "compaq"
> >>
> >>
> >> HorizSync 30-40
> >> VertRefresh 60-70
> >>
> >> Modeline "640x480" 28.32 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525
> >
> > No EndSection?

Does this actually work without one, or did you leave it out?

> >>   Standard VGA Device:
> 
> This part is needed for some reason.

Weird. Can it run with just this one, and not the second one?
(the one with all the "wd"s)
 
> > I assume that you tried "Virtual 1024 768"?
> 
> It works but that puts me into the upper left quadrant.  Is there a 
> way to switch between the 640 and the virtual 1024 if I only have a 
> modeline for the 640?

No. That would mean changing the size of the whole screen dynamically.
The X architecture doesn't currently support that, since it would mean
having to force everything into the new size.

> I can now run four full-screen programs in X 
> if I scroll between them with the mouse but it is not very 
> convenient to keep switching between lower left quadrant to access 
> the menu, and upper left to see the rxvt.

How would reducing the size of the screen solve the problem? You
would only be able to use one thing at a time, which seems like a
step backward to me.

> > Try starting X directly, without startx or xinit.
> 
> It worked, and so did xinit with only
> 
> exec icewm
> 
> and nothing about export DISPLAY or rxvt in it.
> 
> 
> How exciting to actually have X working on a laptop computer in 
> more than 4 colors!
> 
> Someone (me?) has added to this menu a 'links2' and 'pcmciadial' 
> menu item that don't work.  Time to add those now that X works.  
> 'pcmciadial' would be a script to invoke /etc/pcmcia/start and then 
> 'eznet up 0'.  Another script 'CF' could invoke start and then also 
> mount the pcmcia CF adaptor (I still need to check if it is hdb or 
> hdc), and 'zip' could insmod parport, parport_pc, scsi_mod, sd_mod, 
> and imm and mount sda4 (parport zip drive).  My partner will love 
> being able to download photos and copy them to zip disk or email 
> them without thinking too hard about it.
> 
> Thanks for dragging me through this and I hope this config also 
> works on James' Compaq laptop.  Should I post the actual file?

I think that what has been posted is good enough.

David

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