Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Rolf" <rolf.furuli AT sf-nett.no>]

Dear Ken,

This is a fine list, and I appreciate that you sent it to the list.  I would 
like to add two things. The fragment POxy 3522 from  c. 50 CE has the 
tetragram in old Hebrew characters. I am not sure what "Nahal Hever Hand A 
and hand B" refer to. But the manuscript 8HevXIIgr (fragments of the book of 
the twelve prophets) has the tetragram in old Hebrew characters. The age 
estimates of all the fragments you list are somewhat uncertain. The age 
estimates of the mentioned manuscripts are,  Barthelemy: first century CE; C. 
H. Roberts: between 50 BCE and 50 CE; P. J. Parsons: Late first century BCE; 
Tov: end of first century BCE.

For further manuscript studies I recommend "Scribal Practices and Approaches 
Reflected in the Texts Found in the Judean Desert," E. Tov, 2002. I do not 
have the book at hand, but it contains tables with manuscripts containing 
divine designations—If I remember correctly, until the fifth century CE. This 
book is very important for textual studies.



Best regards,


Rolf Furuli
Stavern
Norway


Torsdag 20. Juni 2013 15:42 CEST skrev Ken Penner <kpenner AT stfx.ca>:

> Before the thread closes, I will share some relevant data I have collected. 
> I do not feel inclined to interpret these data or draw conclusions on this 
> list.
> Here is a list of the oldest manuscripts of the LXX, in chronological 
> order. I hope the formatting comes through the listserve.
> The first column has the number Rahlfs and Fraenkel gave the manuscript for 
> the Goettingen editions of the Septuagint. The next column provides its 
> number in the Leuven Database of Ancient Books. The third column has the 
> manuscript name as a link to images provided by this database; the data and 
> contents columns are also taken from the LDAB. In the final column has a 
> note on the treatment of the Tetragrammaton.
>
> Rahlfs  LDAB    Manuscript      Date    Contents        Tetragrammaton
> 819     3458    
> 4Q122<http://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/explore-the-archive/manuscript/4Q122-1>
>   BC 199 - 150    Deuteronomium 11.4      Not preserved
> 957     3459    P. Rylands 
> 458<http://enriqueta.man.ac.uk:8180/luna/servlet/detail/ManchesterDev~93~3~24513~100397:Deuteronomy?sort=Image_sequence_number%2CFolio%2CImage_Title%2CDate_created&qvq=sort:Image_sequence_number>
>   BC 199 - 100    Deuteronomium 23-28 passim      Blank spaces
> 805     3456    
> 7QLXXEx<http://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/explore-the-archive/manuscript/7Q1-1>
>   BC 100 about    Exodus 28.4-7   Not preserved
> 801     3454    
> 4QLXXLeva<http://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/explore-the-archive/manuscript/4Q119-1>
>       BC 99 - AD 99   Leviticus 26.1-16       Not preserved
> 804     3460    
> 7QLXXEpJer<http://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/explore-the-archive/manuscript/7Q2-1>
>        BC 99 - 1       Jeremias, letter
> 942     3450    PFouad 266a     BC 50 - AD 25   Genesis 3.10-12; 4.5-7, 23; 
> 7.17-20; 37.34 - 38.1; 38.10-12     Blank spaces
> 802     3452    
> 4QLXXLevb<http://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/explore-the-archive/manuscript/4Q120-1>
>       BC 99 - 1       Leviticus 1-5   ἰάω
> 848             PFouad 266b     1st C BCE               Square Hebrew
>
> If anyone wants to continue this work, you will find Bob Kraft's page 
> helpful: http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rak//earlylxx/earlypaplist.html
> It provides Rahlfs and LDAB numbers, and some description of the form of 
> the tetragrammaton in each manuscript.
> The LDAB is at http://www.trismegistos.org/ldab/
> For convenient reference, I will list the next manuscripts in chronological 
> order:
> PFouad 266c
> 4Q127
> 4Q126
> 4QLXXNu
> Nahal Hever hand A
> Nahal Hever hand B
> POxy 3522
> POxy 4443
> PFouad 203
> PBarc inv 2
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Yigal Levin
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:04 AM
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> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name... CLOSES IN 22 HOURS
>
> I agree. This has stopped being about the Name in Hebrew. This thread end 
> 22 hours from now - Friday at 6 am Tiberias time.
>
> Yigal Levin
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> I've found in this thread much to think about, so I thank the moderators 
> for allowing it to continue so far.  But, at this point, hasn't it run its 
> course?  Haven't all the participants already made their points?  Isn't it 
> time to put an end to it???
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> William Parsons
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