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  • From: David Kolinsky <yishalom AT sbcglobal.net>
  • To: George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>
  • Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] a much bigger and relevant issue not exactly about Caleb
  • Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:51:26 -0700 (PDT)

George,

Not necessarily in support of Jim , but about what you wrote:

"...assume/demand that people be named at birth for something they do later
in life. THAT does not make sense."

There is an assumption in Biblical scholarship and on this list that the
Bible is perfect history or at least distorted history with political
intentions.  Perhaps that assumption is entirely wrong.  Perhaps the Bible is
history distorted in such a way as to tell lessons, sort of the same way that
Greek mythology teaches us about personality traits (Narcissus for example). 
Then a characters names matching their achievements later in life makes
perfect sense.  If this were not the case then why are so many characters so
frequently having their names changed in the context of the story. 

Avram = exalted father AND  one whose willingness (to engage life ) is
elevated
Avraham = one who spread his wings [?BR] in pursuit of stirring experiences
[HMH]

Sarai = one who focuses on many things (distractedly)
Sarah = one who focuses on one particular thing [SRH]

YaaQoV = one who grabs on to a thing, and examines and follows, traces a
thing, with critical thinking (see Arabic)
Yisrael = one who remains focused on G-d / what advances forward [SRH]

AND YES I KNOW THAT YOU ALL BELIEVE THAT MY ETYMOLOGIES ARE MORE THAN A
STRETCH AND SO YOU IGNORE MY POSTS, BUT REALLY DO YOU EVER EVEN STOP TO
CONSIDER THEM, OR DO YOU JUST DISREGARD THEM OUT OF HAND

No offense meant to anyone on the list, but perhaps your belief in the
paradigm taught to you prevents you from looking close enough to see what is
being said.

With respect,

David Kolinsky
Monterey CA

--- On Fri, 9/16/11, George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au> wrote:

From: George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Caleb
To: "B-Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Friday, September 16, 2011, 2:12 AM

Thank you for you last post on this, Jim. For what it's worth, the names do
"make sense" but you don't seem to like what they mean and assume/demand that
people be named at birth for something they do later in life. THAT does not
make sense.

That's the end of the thread now.


GEORGE ATHAS
Director of Postgraduate Studies,
Moore Theological College (moore.edu.au)
Sydney, Australia


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