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  • From: fred burlingame <tensorpath AT gmail.com>
  • To: "Bryant J. Williams III" <bjwvmw AT com-pair.net>
  • Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] A correction about one, two, or three Isaiahs
  • Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:25:19 -0600

that particular scroll seems the product of more than one author. why?

The story appears repeated; (first half and second half of the scroll); and
an historical narrative interrupts the story in its repetition (second
half).

regards,

fred burlingame

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Bryant J. Williams III <
bjwvmw AT com-pair.net> wrote:

> Dear George,
>
> Thank you for the correction regarding "conservative" versus
> "traditionalist."
>
> Regarding 2-3. Although the JEDP theory relates to the Pentateuch, it's
> conclusions were used by the Redaction-Critical Theory proponents for the
> rest
> of the Tanakh. There is obvious editing in the text of the Tanakh, but that
> does
> not mean that it was created whole cloth at the time of editing which many
> of
> the proponents believe. I think the DSS put that issue to rest. The major
> problem with Deutero-Isaiah or Trito-Isaiah theories is the issue of
> predictive
> prophecy which most do not admit to (this is true for all of prophecy in
> the
> Tanakh especially Daniel); and, thus, automatically put a late date to the
> documents. Your number four shows that this is the case.
>
> I'll stop now before I violate list guidelines.
>
> Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Athas" <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>
> To: "B-Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 5:55 PM
> Subject: [b-hebrew] A correction about one, two, or three Isaiahs
>
>
> > Bryant Williams wrote:
> >
> > "Conservative scholarship treats Isaiah being produced by one person, the
> prophet Isaiah. Most modern scholarship treats Isaiah as being written by
> two,
> maybe three persons. It is based on the discredited JEDP theory of
> Graf-Welhausen. SEE archives for previous discussions."
> >
> >
> > I have a few corrections/comments to make about this.
> >
> > Firstly, I know many conservative scholars who believe Isaiah is the
> product
> of at least two or three people. To use the term 'conservative' to
> characterise
> a position on this is, I believe, not helpful or accurate. Perhaps
> 'traditionalist' is a better term for those who argue for singular
> authorship of
> Isaiah.
> >
> > Secondly, the argument for two or three authors for Isaiah actually has
> little
> to do with the Graf-Wellhausen Documentary Hypothesis ('JEDP'). The 'JEDP'
> hypothesis really relates only to the Pentateuch.
> >
> > Thirdly, the JEDP theory is a source-critical theory, that argues for
> particular documents as the sources lying behind the current Pentateuch.
> The
> argument for two or three authors of Isaiah is not really a source theory,
> but
> rather a redaction-critical theory.
> >
> > Fourthly, some of the conservatives who argue for two or three authors
> also
> add a theological argument (when God speaks, it is immediately relevant and
> demands an immediate response from the prophet's audience). I don't want to
> argue the pros or cons of this argument, but I do need to state that this
> position is held by certain proponents of the two/three authors theory.
> >
> >
> > GEORGE ATHAS
> > Moore Theological College (Sydney, Australia)
> > www.moore.edu.au
> >
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