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[Antonio Garcia <garcia.secretariagh.antonio1 AT gmail.com>]

      Hi, Pere and Karl:

      Do you know the structure of psalm 31?, could you include their
structure in this post?.I couldn´t find this arxive on google. There are
some problems about knowing structure of psalms, in internet.

      I need the composition of this psalm to give you my opinion about
different meanings of words, ketib, qere and inverse legendum.

     Thanks in advance, Antonio Garcia Hurtado.


2010/10/15 Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>

> Karl,
>
> I think it is very, VERY, difficult to maintain that M'OD is (or can be) a
> Pi'el Participle of the same root of the noun aleph-yod-daleth (distress).
>
> Patterns consisting of prefix M- and two root letters are always
>
> 1. Either Hiph'il Participles as in Ez 33:32; Jr 21:4; Pr 17:4...
> 2. Or Hoph'al Participles as in Jb 11:15; Ml 1:11...
> 3. Or nouns usually coming from bases ayin-ayin as 'magen' (shield) (Gn
> 15:1); 'ma'oz', fortress, protection (not in the Bible). (Some others
> derive
> from bases pe-nun as 'matan' (gift) (Pr 21:14) or 'makhah' (wound) (Lv
> 26:21) and a few others come from bases ayin-yod such as 'm'dan',
> discussion
> (cf Gn 25:2, where it is used as a proper name), from '(la)dyn', to
> judge (Dn 10:1)
>
> Nothing of Pi'el Participle here.
>
> (How would you justify this possibility of a Pi'el Participle?)
>
> [These are just my 2 cents, as you like to say.]
>
> Hearty,
>
> Pere Porta
> (Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2010/10/14 K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
>
> > Ps 31:12
> >
> >
> > מכל צררי הייתי חרפה ולשכני מאד ופחד למידעי ראי בחוץ נדדו ממני
> >
> >
> > Focussing on the two words, ולשכני מאד, I found myself following the
> > context
> > to read ו-ל-שכנ-י “and to my dweller” i.e. one who dwells with me,
> > neighbor.
> >
> >
> > But the second word, מאד, is a little bit more difficult. The normal
> > reading
> > is of “exceeding”, “very”, but in this context, is this not a piel
> > participle from the same root as איד meaning “misfortune”? Doesn’t this
> fit
> > the context better than “exceedingly”?
> >
> >
> > Making the whole verse read, “I have become a reproach beyond all my
> foes,
> > and to my neighbors misfortune, and dread to my acquaintances, those who
> > see
> > me outside fly from me.”
> >
> >
> > Karl W. Randolph.
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