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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?
- From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- To: George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?
- Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:16:07 -0700
George:
Looking at the dictionary in Mac OS X.6, I find:
“Grammar a grammatical category or form that expresses the way inwhich time
is denoted by the verb : the semantics of tense and aspect | fourverbal
aspects.“There are two aspects in English, the progressive or continuing
aspect (expressing duration, typically using the auxiliary verb bewith a
form in -ing, as in I was reading a book) and the perfect orperfective
(expressing completed action, typically using the auxiliary verb have with
a past participle, as in I have read the book)”
In other words, a grammaticalized completed/uncompleted action shown by the
different inflections.
This was also the meaning taught me when studying Russian.
AKTIONSART is more general and not necessarily grammaticalized, according to
the definitions I found, and it is not listed as an option in the SIL
glossary of linguistic terms.
The qal/yiqtol inflections are not grammaticalizations of aspect.
Karl W. Randolph.
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:59 PM, George Athas
<George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>wrote:
> Just a quick correction:
>
> > This isn't true either. Completed/uncompleted actions is called "aspect"
> and
> > the Biblical Hebrew verb system has neither tense nor aspect.
>
> Not quite. The completed/uncompleted axis is not aspect, but AKTIONSART
> ('type of action'). The usual polarity proposed for ASPECT is
> perfective/imperfective. However, there are other ways of defining the axis:
> definite/indefinite or proximate/distant, to name a few.
>
>
> GEORGE ATHAS
> Moore Theological College (Sydney, Australia)
> www.moore.edu.au
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[b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
Chris Echols, 09/08/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?, Barry H., 09/08/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
Stephen Shead, 09/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
Stephen Shead, 09/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
Chris Echols, 09/10/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
K Randolph, 09/10/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
George Athas, 09/13/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
K Randolph, 09/13/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?, George Athas, 09/13/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?, K Randolph, 09/13/2010
- [b-hebrew] Aspect and aktionsart, Kimmo Huovila, 09/14/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
K Randolph, 09/13/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
George Athas, 09/13/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
K Randolph, 09/10/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?, Steve Miller, 09/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
Chris Echols, 09/10/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
Stephen Shead, 09/09/2010
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