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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?
- From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- To: Chris Echols <chrisechols AT gmail.com>
- Cc: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?
- Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:20:07 -0700
Dear Chris:
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Chris Echols <chrisechols AT gmail.com> wrote:
> …
>
> Looking at these two examples from below that another minister used to
> prove
> his point, there may be more of a case since now that I understand that
> Hebrew has completed/uncompleted actions rather than past, present, future
> verb tenses. Hopefully this will make sense.
>
This isn’t true either. Completed/uncompleted actions is called “aspect” and
the Biblical Hebrew verb system has neither tense nor aspect.
>
>
> *Case 2:*
>
> “And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy
> God,
> and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his
> commandments, and keep all his statutes,* I will put none of these diseases
> upon thee*, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that
> healeth thee.” —Exodus 15:26 KJV
>
> In this case if I just looked at the syntax and would like to know whether
> it is possible the Hebrew could be read something like, "...all the
> sickness
> which was brought upon Egypt will not be brought upon you because I YHWH
> (cause/permit) to heal"?
>
No. I don’t know a thing about “divine healing” theology so this response
has no theology influencing it.
On the linguistic side, context argues that the final word is a participle,
where the best translation is, “who heals you.” “(cause/permit) to heal”
would require a different inflection.
>
> And of course this all centers around a debate on so-called "divine
> healing"
> but I want to be fair in my perceived criticism of the doctrine based on
> the
> text instead of my thoughts on the matter...
>
> …
> Chris E. Echols
> AVI-SPL
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
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[b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
Chris Echols, 09/08/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?, Barry H., 09/08/2010
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
Stephen Shead, 09/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
Stephen Shead, 09/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
Chris Echols, 09/10/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
K Randolph, 09/10/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
George Athas, 09/13/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
K Randolph, 09/13/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?, George Athas, 09/13/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?, K Randolph, 09/13/2010
- [b-hebrew] Aspect and aktionsart, Kimmo Huovila, 09/14/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
K Randolph, 09/13/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
George Athas, 09/13/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
K Randolph, 09/10/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?, Steve Miller, 09/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
Chris Echols, 09/10/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is there any such thing as "permissive"/"causative" tenses in Biblical Hebrew?,
Stephen Shead, 09/09/2010
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