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  • From: Will Parsons <wbparsons AT alum.mit.edu>
  • To: fournet.arnaud AT wanadoo.fr
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30
  • Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:31:27 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:45:30 +0200, "Arnaud Fournet"
<fournet.arnaud AT wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Parsons" <wbparsons AT alum.mit.edu>
> To: <klriley AT alphalink.com.au>
> Cc: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 10:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30
>
>
> > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:46:54 +1000, Kevin Riley
> > <klriley AT alphalink.com.au> wrote:
> >> Egyptian kh could not be represented by Greek X until after it had
> >> changed
> >> from an aspirated stop to a fricative.
> >
> > This is contradicted by the rendering of the Old Kingdom Pharaoh known in
> > English as Khufu in Greek as Χέοψ/Cheops. Both Cheops and Apries are
> > found
> > in Herodotus, so why there would be a difference in how Egyptian ḫ/kh is
> > rendered is not clear.
> ***
>
> Apries has aleph as initial, so there is no contradiction.

Please read more carefully! The contradiction that I was referring to was
that the Greek transcription of Khufu by Cheops contradicts the claim that
X (chi) could not represent Egyptian kh until chi itself became a fricative.

> The point is Apries has nothing to do with kheper: it's from 'b râ =
> 'ab-ri"a.

It's possible, but it cannot be statedly dogmatically as a fact.

--
William Parsons



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