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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30
- From: Will Parsons <wbparsons AT alum.mit.edu>
- To: leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30
- Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:10:52 -0400 (EDT)
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:54:08 -0400 (EDT), Will Parsons
<wbparsons AT alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:43:26 +0300, Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
> wrote:
> >
> > "Conventional wisdom" is that "Hophra" in Jer. 44:33 is the same as the
> > king
> > that the Greek historians call Apries, 4th king of the 26th dynasty, who
> > ruled from 589 to 570 BCE. The form "Khepera" is not the name of a king,
> > but
> > rather a title of the sun god Re, actually referring to the sacred dung
> > beetle. But if you or anyone else think that "Hophra" should be identified
> > with someone else, I'm sure that we would all be happy to hear your
> > evidence.
>
> There is an Egyptian name Kheper-re` (ḫpr-rˁ), however.
>
> Phonetically, Hebrew H.ophra` can be seen to match pretty closely,
> especially if we take the vocalization of the Egyptian form to be something
> like Khopi-ra`.
>
> The Greek form Απριης/Apries can also be seen to match such a form,
> especially if we take the vocalization of the Egyptian form to be something
> like Khapi-re`. (This is, however, not as straight-forward as the Hebrew
> correspondence, since one might reasonably have thought that an initial
> Egyptian ḫ/kh would be rendered as χ/kh in Greek.)
>
> The LXX, however, renders the name as Ουαφρη/Ouaphre. This does not match
> the attested Hebrew form particularly well, but matches an Egyptian form
> of the name of a Saite Pharaoh Wa'ah-ib-re` (w3ḥ-ỉb-rˁ).
>
> As to what to make of this, I'm not sure. But, I'll through out the
^^^^^^^
throw
I apologize for spelling and grammatical errors that arise from pure
carelessness. One does tend to be a bit sloppy when throwing (sic!) out
ideas, and not paying enough attention to checking what one has written.
> evidence for what it's worth.
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/20/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, K Randolph, 07/20/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
JimStinehart, 07/20/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/20/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
James Christian, 07/23/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Yigal Levin, 07/24/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/24/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Will Parsons, 07/25/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, Arnaud Fournet, 07/26/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Will Parsons, 07/25/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Will Parsons, 07/25/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, Will Parsons, 07/25/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Kevin Riley, 07/25/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, Will Parsons, 07/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, Arnaud Fournet, 07/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, Will Parsons, 07/27/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/24/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, K Randolph, 07/26/2010
- [b-hebrew] General Interest:, Barry, 07/27/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] General Interest:, K Randolph, 07/27/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Yigal Levin, 07/24/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, Will Parsons, 07/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, Arnaud Fournet, 07/27/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
James Christian, 07/23/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/20/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/20/2010
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