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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30
- From: Will Parsons <wbparsons AT alum.mit.edu>
- To: leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30
- Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:54:08 -0400 (EDT)
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:43:26 +0300, Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
wrote:
>
> "Conventional wisdom" is that "Hophra" in Jer. 44:33 is the same as the king
> that the Greek historians call Apries, 4th king of the 26th dynasty, who
> ruled from 589 to 570 BCE. The form "Khepera" is not the name of a king, but
> rather a title of the sun god Re, actually referring to the sacred dung
> beetle. But if you or anyone else think that "Hophra" should be identified
> with someone else, I'm sure that we would all be happy to hear your
> evidence.
There is an Egyptian name Kheper-re` (ḫpr-rˁ), however.
Phonetically, Hebrew H.ophra` can be seen to match pretty closely,
especially if we take the vocalization of the Egyptian form to be something
like Khopi-ra`.
The Greek form Απριης/Apries can also be seen to match such a form,
especially if we take the vocalization of the Egyptian form to be something
like Khapi-re`. (This is, however, not as straight-forward as the Hebrew
correspondence, since one might reasonably have thought that an initial
Egyptian ḫ/kh would be rendered as χ/kh in Greek.)
The LXX, however, renders the name as Ουαφρη/Ouaphre. This does not match
the attested Hebrew form particularly well, but matches an Egyptian form
of the name of a Saite Pharaoh Wa'ah-ib-re` (w3ḥ-ỉb-rˁ).
As to what to make of this, I'm not sure. But, I'll through out the
evidence for what it's worth.
--
William Parsons
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
JimStinehart, 07/20/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/20/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, K Randolph, 07/20/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/20/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
JimStinehart, 07/20/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/20/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
James Christian, 07/23/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Yigal Levin, 07/24/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/24/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Will Parsons, 07/25/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, Arnaud Fournet, 07/26/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Will Parsons, 07/25/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Will Parsons, 07/25/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, Will Parsons, 07/25/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Kevin Riley, 07/25/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, Will Parsons, 07/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, Arnaud Fournet, 07/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, Will Parsons, 07/27/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/24/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, K Randolph, 07/26/2010
- [b-hebrew] General Interest:, Barry, 07/27/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] General Interest:, K Randolph, 07/27/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Yigal Levin, 07/24/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30, Will Parsons, 07/26/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
James Christian, 07/23/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/20/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Pharaoh Khepera'a in Jeremiah 44:30,
JimStinehart, 07/20/2010
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