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- From: Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30
- Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 01:53:16 +0300
James,
1. What do you mean by "minimalist" when you use it here?
2. What evidence do you have that the Samaritan version of the Pentateuch is
as old as the division of the monarchy? To counter your claim, I'd point out
that there is no evidence, textual or archaeological, of there being an
important cultic site on Mt. Gerizim before the Persian Period, despite the
fact that the SP repeats the commandment to sacrifice there regularly
several times. According to the Bible, the main sanctuaries of the Northern
Kingdom were at Bethel and at Dan. Had there been such a sanctuary at Mt.
Gerizim the Bible would surely have denounced it.
Yigal Levin
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To: Yitzhak Sapir
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30
YS: Before we explore this amazing agreement, it is important to point out
that
the spelling of the Pentateuch definitely does not predate the 6th century
BCE.
Furthermore the Samaritan Pentateuch agrees with the Jewish Pentateuch
on issues of spelling (the spelling is actually more developed in the
Samaritan,
generally speaking), so we would have to conclude that the agreement and
mutual confirmation of the Pentateuch by both communities happened
sometime not before the 6th century BCE. A likely time would be the 3rd
century BCE, for various reasons.
JC: This is all pretty standard minimalist stuff but full marks for your
ability to regurgitate views you have read in a minimalist book. I guess
we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one as we've already been
through this perhaps more times than Jim has presented his conspiracy
theories on the location of the Salt Sea.
However, the shape of the Samaritan canon in general would suggest that your
minimalist view is extremely misguided. The split in the canon follows the
timeline of the split of the kingdoms and the Samaritan pentateuch is
evidently older than the split. The nationalistic differences can be argued
to be later for obvious reasons. But it is these very differences which give
the agreements their age.
James Christian
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
George Athas, 05/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
James Christian, 05/12/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30, George Athas, 05/12/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30, James Christian, 05/13/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30, George Athas, 05/13/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30, James Christian, 05/14/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30, K Randolph, 05/14/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30, George Athas, 05/14/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
James Christian, 05/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
George Athas, 05/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
James Christian, 05/15/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
Yigal Levin, 05/15/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30, James Christian, 05/16/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
Yigal Levin, 05/15/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
James Christian, 05/15/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
Yitzhak Sapir, 05/17/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
James Christian, 05/17/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
James Christian, 05/17/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
James Christian, 05/17/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30, Yitzhak Sapir, 05/17/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30, James Christian, 05/18/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
James Christian, 05/17/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
James Christian, 05/17/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30, Yitzhak Sapir, 05/17/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
James Christian, 05/17/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 30:20-30,
Yitzhak Sapir, 05/17/2010
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