Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Michael" <michaelabernat9001 AT sbcglobal.net>]

Concerning modern Hebrew.  I did find the study of modern Hebrew to be 
somewhat helpful.  But that was mostly because I had an absolutely horrible 
class in Biblical Hebrew while attending college.  The textbook included less 
than 100 vocabulary words and our Hebrew teacher wasn't even aware that the 
word syntax applied to the Hebrew language. 
You can find some good Hebrew vocabulary books on google books and concordia 
University has two courses available on Itunes--their basic Hebrew class and 
Hebrew club.  I think you will find them helpful.
Mostly I would suggest you spend a lot of time translating the word.  
Memorize every word you don't already know and take the time to memorize any 
phrases that strike you as unusual.
Sincerely,
Michael Abernathy
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Joe,

It is perfectly clear from Russian analogy that waw is strictly a
conjunction. In Russian recitals, deictic center shifts are like this,
"And he would say".

Karl,

Why not entertain a clear analogy for weqatal in Russian? "Exclamation
+ PT" is very, very common in very strong commands. That is analogous
to English, "Have it done!" In all cases, weqatal is used in either of
the two meanings: prophetic past (explainable by deictic center
shifts) or very strong commands (whose result is assured). I submit,
there is not an instance of other usage of weqatal.


Vadim Cherny



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They are not the same morphologically nor functionally. One has a waw
and one doesn't. I take the position that the waw is more than a
prefixed conjunction. It is an actual part of the verb's morphology.
Help me also with some examples of weQatal that do not imply actions
to be done subsequent to the piece of discourse in which they are
found. I need one from a discourse or piece of direct speech which is
a part of a narrative text. I'm not saying none exist. I would just
like to wrestle with some.



Thanks

Joe Justiss

Because it is often used, I looked up weqatal of NTN. In Numbers 3:9,
7:5,
16:17 and other verses, for example, it is used as an imperative, a
command,
not as a future tense. You might argue that strictly speaking that the
action follows the imperative, but the function is not as a future.

Karl W. Randolph