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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs
- From: "Stoney Breyer" <stoneyb AT touchwoodcreative.com>
- To: "'Rolf Furuli'" <furuli AT online.no>, <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs
- Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:38:54 -0500
RF: There is one problem with your examples, because the -ing forms are used
adjectivally. . . The -ing forms used as adjectives are not a part of the
English verbal system.
SB: This seems to me pretty arbitrary. The same word, same form is an
adjective if it comes before its subject, a verb if it comes after its
subject, even though the positions are interchangeable according to very
straightforward transformation rules? . . .
With (insincere) apologies to Mets fans:
Wainwright's curve paralyzed Beltran.
v
The Cardinals won the LCS on Wainwright's paralyzing curve.
v
The winning Cardinals advanced to the World Series.
If you prefer, however:
Paralyzing Beltran, Wainwright's curve won the LCS for the
Cardinals.
Winning the LCS, the Cardinals advanced to the World Series.
Deep structure's the same for all of them, though.
RF: In such situations we do not speak of aspect.
SB: Why not? It's there. And having rejected my earlier suggestion that
*tense* should be located in the utterance rather than word, are you now
going to locate *aspect* in the utterance?
Stoney Breyer
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[b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
Rolf Furuli, 06/23/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
James Read, 06/23/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs, Rolf Furuli, 06/23/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
David Kummerow, 06/23/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs, Rolf Furuli, 06/24/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
K Randolph, 06/24/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
Stoney Breyer, 06/24/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
Rolf Furuli, 06/24/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs, Stoney Breyer, 06/24/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
Yitzhak Sapir, 06/24/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs, K Randolph, 06/25/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
Rolf Furuli, 06/24/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
Stoney Breyer, 06/24/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
David Kummerow, 06/23/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
Rolf Furuli, 06/24/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
Bryant J. Williams III, 06/24/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
Rolf Furuli, 06/24/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
Bryant J. Williams III, 06/24/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs, Rolf Furuli, 06/25/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
Bryant J. Williams III, 06/24/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
Rolf Furuli, 06/24/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
Bryant J. Williams III, 06/24/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
Rolf Furuli, 06/24/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs, David Kummerow, 06/24/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs, David Kummerow, 06/24/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Uncancellable meaning and Hebrew verbs,
James Read, 06/23/2009
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