Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>]

Bryant,

It is not clear to me why we should use all these dictionaries, where  
we can use better, and to our greater advantage, our own brain.
I looked up TWOT and saw that he suggests that XALAH [of the famous  
rhyme: I baked a little xalah, I baked it by myself, I put it in the  
oven, I put it on the shelf,...] is some kind of bagel or pretzel  
since its name implies that it is 'pierced'.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Sep 7, 2007, at 1:45 PM, Bryant J. Williams III wrote:

> Dear Michael,
>
> Besides, BDB, I also use the following:
>
> 1)    William Holladay, *A Concise Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of  
> the Old
> Testament,* Grand Rapids: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company,  
> 1971.
> Originally published by E.J. Brill, Leiden, Netherlands.
>
> 2)    R. Laird Harris, Editor; Gleason L. Archer, Bruce K. Waltke,  
> Associate
> Editors, *Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament,* 2 Volumes,  
> Chicago: Moody
> Press, 1980.
>
> In fact, regarding the issue of "chalal" versus "kalal," I would  
> refer to TWOT,
> Vol. 1, page 288, "Halal."
>
> Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <michaelabernat9001 AT sbcglobal.net>
> To: "b-hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:04 AM
> Subject: [b-hebrew] resource material was chalal-perforate/pierce?
>
>
> >           I am somewhat confused by the discussion of chalal. It  
> > appears
> > that some argue there are two roots with similar but not identical  
> > spelling.
> > One meaning to profane and the other having a meaning which  
> > includes wound,
> > pain, pierce, etc. My resources are limited so I  looked this up  
> > in a couple
> > of modern Hebrew/English dictionaries and some of the more classical
> > lexicons.
> >
> >           The modern dictionaries treated this word as one entry,  
> > presumably
> > they only saw one root which included both the ideas of profane  
> > and wounding
> > or killing.
> >
> >           The classical lexicons also treat the word as being one  
> > root with
> > diverse meanings including: pierce through, wound, to break, and  
> > to lay open
> > or give access to. One lexicon goes on to explain that this is one  
> > reason
> > the word came to mean profane because some things which were holy  
> > were not
> > open to public access.
> >
> >           I sometimes get the impression from this group that some  
> > members
> > assume a theological bias on the part of scholars invalidates  
> > their work.
> > (Some of these are also so outdated I hate to use them but at  
> > least I can
> > afford them.) I can understand the sentiment but that does make it  
> > difficult
> > to maintain communication on theologically charged passages. So,  
> > here is my
> > question. Which lexicons and other resources are mutually  
> > acceptable to both
> > our Jewish and Christian scholars who participate on this forum?  
> > While I'm
> > asking, remember my resources are limited. I don't exactly live in  
> > the
> > middle of nowhere. Nowhere is about fifteen miles down the road. I  
> > would
> > appreciate it if our Jewish friends could identify any online  
> > resources they
> > find acceptable.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Michael Abernathy
> >
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