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- From: davidfentonism AT aim.com
- To: hholmyard3 AT earthlink.net, b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues
- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:34:30 -0400
Dear Harold,
You are right, the Tserach is the Branch (Yaho-oshu-wah). Pardes can refer
to ocean (Torah is a lifegiving ocean) like you said but it is also the
acronym for the hermeneutic methods --p'shat, remez, drash, sod (PaRDeS)--
used by Israelites for thousands of years and today to interpret the
Scriptures. Without PaRDeS, the depths of meaning can not be apprehended no
matter how towering the intellect which attempts it. Looking at this will
make almost everything said by the skeptics, critics, scholars to be seen in
their true diminutive light.
I appreciate the questions, Harold.
Best regards,
David Fenton
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Gal. 27-29: For as many as have had a tevilah into Moshiach have clothed
yourselves with Moshiach. There is not Yehudi nor Yevani (Greek), there is
not eved (servant) nor ben chorin (freedman), there is not zachar (male) nor
nekevah (female), for you are all echad in Moshiach Yehoshua/Yeshua. And, if
you belong to Moshiach (YESHAYAH 53:10), then you are of the ZERAH of Avraham
Avinu, you are yoreshim (heirs) according to the havtachah (promise).
-----Original Message-----
From: hholmyard3 AT earthlink.net
To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues
Dear Dave,
> Allow me this afterthought, Kevin. I do not ever try to convince
> believers
much less non-believers of the inerrancy of Scripture. I do not believe I can
offer any defense for the truth of Torah better than Torah itself. I proclaim
it
but never defend it. Of course, I refute and debate fallacious arguments
against
the Book all the time because without the right starting point, no meanigful
discussion can be had.
>
> To another point, the B'rit Hadashah (New Testament) makes clear that the
Spirit of G-d is required to comprehend the things of G-d. This is a point
where
non-believers will have to remian frustrated because there is nothing
believers
can do to change it. However, believers are able to compare their difference
in
understanding before and after belief which non-believers are not ever able
to
do as it is literally impossible. The way you refer to the text at the p'shat
(surface) level is clear evidence of this. What the text says can be
interpreted
through PaRDeS and all else is not even close.
HH: What do you mean by PaRDeS? I suppose you mean garden. Are you using
the word as a metaphor for the visible earth, external reality, or
something?
> I just want to help you see it through my eyes despite the gulf between us
(and the Tserach is the only bridge from your side to mine).
>
HH: What does Tserach represent? It may be a software program that
searches, but that is probably not what you mean. I think of the Hebrew
letters tsade, resh, and het, but I don't see a noun for those letters.
I think of Tsemach, "branch" (Jer 23:5).
Yours,
Harold Holmyard
>
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Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues
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- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, Peter Kirk, 03/28/2007
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- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, Yitzhak Sapir, 03/28/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, davidfentonism, 03/28/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, Kevin Riley, 03/28/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, davidfentonism, 03/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, davidfentonism, 03/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, Harold Holmyard, 03/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, Gary Hedrick, 03/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, Gary Hedrick, 03/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, Harold Holmyard, 03/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, davidfentonism, 03/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, K Randolph, 03/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, Kevin Riley, 03/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, Yitzhak Sapir, 03/30/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, K Randolph, 03/30/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, K Randolph, 03/31/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, Yitzhak Sapir, 03/31/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, K Randolph, 03/31/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, Bryant J. Williams III, 03/31/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, Yitzhak Sapir, 03/31/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] how scholars debate controversial issues, Bryant J. Williams III, 03/31/2007
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