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Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions
- From: "Yonah Mishael" <yonahmishael AT gmail.com>
- To: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions
- Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:45:21 -0500
On 10/3/06, Yitzhak Sapir <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com> wrote:
Then why does the masculine ending on verbs, -ta have a dagesh?
The real reason is that the fricativization of these letters occurred
very early. We
have evidence it occurred already in the 5th century BCE. By the time of the
Massoretes, the rule that a bgdkpt letter is fricative after a vowel no longer
applied, but in various words where this fricative rule applied and
the vowel before
the bgdkpt letter dropped later, the fricative sound remained. Take the word
*malk- "king". Originally, the plural had a long a: in the second
syllable. Thus,
the plural of "melekh" is "melakhim". This used to be the case in the
construct
form: "mala:khe". However, when the second a: dropped, the word remained
"malkhe". The verbal suffixes had no vowel before them ever. Thus, the word
"I heard" is attested in Amarna as $a-mi-ti "$ami(ti", without a vowel
between the
(ayin and "ti" suffix. This goes for the rest of the verbal suffixes.
However,
the noun suffixes had a vowel before them. This was the case ending. While
the case ending was eventually lost, the "-ka" suffix remained fricative.
The -ta personal suffix for verbs bears the dagesh qal because of the
closed syllable that comes before it. לָמַדְתָּ LfMaD:T.f because of
the closed syllable מַדְ MaD: .
Notice that this is not the case with verbs like ברא BR) which do not
have a closed syllable (with the quiescent alef): בָּרָאתִי BfRf)TiY .
This is not a dagesh hazak, and it has to do with the closed syllabel
that precedes it.
Shalom,
Yonah
--
Yonah Mishael ben Avraham
Joplin, MO
yonahmishael AT gmail.com
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions,
Yitzhak Sapir, 10/02/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions,
Peter Kirk, 10/02/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Yitzhak Sapir, 10/02/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions,
Vadim Cherny, 10/03/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions,
Peter Kirk, 10/03/2006
- [b-hebrew] Num 11: 5 khaw-tseer', JP vd Giessen (FOL), 10/04/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Num 11: 5 khaw-tseer', K Randolph, 10/04/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Num 11: 5 khaw-tseer', Harold Holmyard, 10/04/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Vadim Cherny, 10/04/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions,
Peter Kirk, 10/03/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions,
Yitzhak Sapir, 10/03/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Yonah Mishael, 10/03/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Vadim Cherny, 10/04/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions,
Peter Kirk, 10/02/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions,
Yitzhak Sapir, 10/02/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Peter Kirk, 10/01/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Yitzhak Sapir, 10/02/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Edward Andrews, 10/02/2006
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