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Re: [b-hebrew] Num 11: 5 khaw-tseer'

From: "K Randolph" <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Num 11: 5 khaw-tseer'
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:07:04 -0700

Jan Pieter:

On 10/3/06, JP vd Giessen (FOL) <janpieter AT giessen.fol.nl> wrote:

I have a problem with translating Numbers 11: 5: khaw-tseer' is translated as
"leek" (Allium porrum) in many translations, but in all other occurrencies it
is translated as "grass".
Is there any specific botanical background why this is "leek"? Could it be an
Egyptian loanword?

Jan Pieter van de Giessen
http://bijbelaantekeningen.blogspot.com/

A leek is an edible grass, often served as a flavoring in a soup or meal.

You are right that it is translated as grass elsewhere, but several
times it refers to grasses that are edible to animals at least.

Hence I see translators coming to this verse and the people remember
the "grasses" they ate in Egypt, would list one known for its flavor
and that it is edible.

Karl W. Randolph.

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    - Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Peter Kirk, 10/01/2006
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        Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Peter Kirk, 10/02/2006
        
        Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Yitzhak Sapir, 10/02/2006
        
        Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Vadim Cherny, 10/03/2006
        
        Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Peter Kirk, 10/03/2006
        
        [b-hebrew] Num 11: 5 khaw-tseer', JP vd Giessen (FOL), 10/04/2006
        Re: [b-hebrew] Num 11: 5 khaw-tseer', K Randolph, 10/04/2006
        
        Re: [b-hebrew] Num 11: 5 khaw-tseer', Harold Holmyard, 10/04/2006
        
        Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Vadim Cherny, 10/04/2006
        
        Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Yitzhak Sapir, 10/03/2006
        
        Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Yonah Mishael, 10/03/2006
        
        Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Vadim Cherny, 10/04/2006
  - Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Bob MacDonald, 10/01/2006
    - Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Peter Kirk, 10/01/2006
    - Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Yitzhak Sapir, 10/02/2006
  - Re: [b-hebrew] Kamatz katan; Ashkenazi pronunciation; was: Translating, Vadim Cherny, 10/03/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating - some elementary questions, Harold Holmyard, 10/02/2006