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  • From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
  • To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II
  • Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:39:36 -0500


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Kirk" <peter AT qaya.org>
>
> On 19/11/2005 21:52, Karl Randolph wrote:
>
>
> Yes, this is a possible case of past `olam meaning rather less than
> "ever since creation" - if you assume that Jeremiah knew about the
> flood, the Tower of Babel etc., which not everyone would.
>
A literate, religious Jew of the priestly clan not knowing
this? ..... ..? At least seven centuries after it was written?

> > There are many other similar usages in Tanakh for the past, I
> > don't need to repeat them.
> >
> > Similarly, (WLM referring to the future does not necessarily mean
> > "forever" or "eternity", though it may, depending on context,
> > unless you use "forever" and "eternity" in a highly idiosyncratic
> > manner.
> >
> .... I am simply using
> them to describe the understanding of the original Hebrew Bible
> authors, which was not informed by the New Testament.
>
Moses and the other authors of Tanakh knew that (WLM
when referring to the past did not mean "forever" nor
"eternity", rather it referred to a span of time whose limits
were unknown (which could include "forever" or "eternity"
as one possible understanding), there is no reason to
assume that they had a different definition for the term
when they referred to the future. It doesn't happen today.
It makes no sense to claim it happened in the past.

You are making a claim concerning the thoughts of the
original authors for which there is not only no evidence,
but it goes against logic too.

> -- Peter Kirk
> peter AT qaya.org (personal)
> peterkirk AT qaya.org (work)
> http://www.qaya.org/


The final paragraph above is why I should not have
answered this letter, and why I should stop this
interchange.

Karl W. Randolph.


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