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- From: Peter Kirk <peter AT qaya.org>
- To: "B. M. Rocine" <brocine AT twcny.rr.com>
- Cc: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] midwives
- Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:42:30 +0000
On 01/11/2005 22:18, B. M. Rocine wrote:
... The only possible counter example I know of is Exo 1:15.
(a.) vayyo'mer melek mistrayim lamyalldot ha`ibriyyot
(b.) 'asher shem ha'axat...
I wonder if the "rule" I have sketched here has any impact on whether we should read lamyalldot or limyalldot in v. 15. I think it does by ruling out lamyalldot!
I still have reservations, however, because even limyalldot is grammatically definite by virtue of its place in an alledged definite construct chain. Hmmmmmmmmmm.
But does your rule still apply when the new character is a definite person, an individual holder of a specific office (or in this case a pair of them)? I note for example that in Genesis 40:1 "the king of Egypt" is introduced with with a definite construct chain (made definite by the proper name at the end) rather than an indefinite one, as there was only one king of Egypt here (as opposed to the rather odd 2 Kings 7:6). Admittedly this doesn't have the "and the name of the..." phrase; it is interesting that this phrase does not seem to be used of specific kings etc but generally only of characters newly introduced in indefinite ways.
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Peter Kirk
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Yitzhak Sapir, 11/01/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
B. M. Rocine, 11/01/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Peter Kirk, 11/01/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] naming formula (was midwives), B. M. Rocine, 11/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Yitzhak Sapir, 11/01/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/01/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] naming formula (was midwives), B. M. Rocine, 11/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Steve Miller, 11/03/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/03/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
B. M. Rocine, 11/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/05/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Steve Miller, 11/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, Dave Washburn, 11/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
B. M. Rocine, 11/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/03/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Peter Kirk, 11/01/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
B. M. Rocine, 11/01/2005
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