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- From: "B. M. Rocine" <brocine AT twcny.rr.com>
- To: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] midwives
- Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 17:18:44 -0500
Hi Yitzhak,
thanks for responding!
Your response sent me on a search with interesting results, I think. In BH narrative there seems to be a consistent formula for introducing named people and things that I may represent as follows:
a. There was _an_ X
b. And the name of _the_ X was...
Examples:
Gen 2:10-11 (a.) venahar yotse' me`eden...(b.) shem ha'exad...
Gen 4:17 (a.) vayehi boneh `ir (b.) vayyiqra' shem ha`ir...
Num 11:26 (a.) vayyishsha'eru shney 'anashim... (b.) shem ha'exad...
The (a.) clause introduces a person or thing to the narrative. It introduces the person or place with grammatical indefiniteness (_an_ X). Then a subsequent (b.) clause gives the person or thing a name. In the (b.) clause, the person or thing is referred to with grammatical definiteness (eg. _the_ X). The pattern is extremely consistent, so I may call it a "rule" for BH narrative. In fact, I could not find a clear counter example when a person or thing is named at the start of a narrative. The only possible counter example I know of is Exo 1:15.
(a.) vayyo'mer melek mistrayim lamyalldot ha`ibriyyot
(b.) 'asher shem ha'axat...
I wonder if the "rule" I have sketched here has any impact on whether we should read lamyalldot or limyalldot in v. 15. I think it does by ruling out lamyalldot!
I still have reservations, however, because even limyalldot is grammatically definite by virtue of its place in an alledged definite construct chain. Hmmmmmmmmmm.
Shalom,
Bryan
Yitzhak Sapir wrote:
On 10/30/05, B. M. Rocine wrote:
B-Haverim,
What do you all think of the possibility that the
midwives of Exo 1:15 were Egyptians rather that
Hebrews?
Shalom,
While a construct phrase is possible here, I don't
think it is legitimate to read it that way. First, two
midwives are involved and the verse clearly states
their names. So it seems very likely that the
"myaldot" are used with the definite article.
<noted and snipped>
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B. M. Rocine
Living Word Church
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Yitzhak Sapir, 11/01/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
B. M. Rocine, 11/01/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Peter Kirk, 11/01/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] naming formula (was midwives), B. M. Rocine, 11/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Yitzhak Sapir, 11/01/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/01/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] naming formula (was midwives), B. M. Rocine, 11/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Steve Miller, 11/03/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/03/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
B. M. Rocine, 11/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/05/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] midwives, Steve Miller, 11/04/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
B. M. Rocine, 11/04/2005
-
Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/03/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
Peter Kirk, 11/01/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] midwives,
B. M. Rocine, 11/01/2005
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