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  • From: "Read, James C" <K0434995 AT kingston.ac.uk>
  • To: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
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  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Gen22:13 YHWHYiReH
  • Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:54:12 +0100


Now I am even more confused than ever.
What three component word? Are you referring to the divine name? Or to the
place name?

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On 15/08/2005 17:23, Read, James C wrote:

>So is everyone saying that this place name has never been considered as a
>single word?
>
>

Well, Jameschristianread, has your three component name never been
considered as a single word? If not, that is because it is clear to
everyone that it is not a single word, but three words, and that the
word boundaries are not arbitrary.

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Hi Shoshanna,

I saw and read your post and thank you for your input.
Shem could not have been Melchizedek unless he had a lifespan much greater
than the average
of his contemporaries.
Your derivation of the name of Jerusalem is interesting but strays a little
from what I was
querying. I was wondering about the pronunciation of YHWHYiR)eH. If the
pronunciation was
attested or if it had survived it would give us clues as to the pronunciation
of the divine
name. How do you read this passage?Do you substitute 'adonai'? Has the
original pronunciation of this
place survived anywhere?

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So is everyone saying that this place name has never been considered
as a single word?

All that aside is anyone aware of any attestations to the
pronunciation of this place name?



Maybe you didn't see my post: "After the Akeidah, Abraham called it Yireh"

We learn from a Midrash:

"The original name of the place was Shalem - the name given it by
Shem, son of Noah - whom the sages identify with Malchitzedek, king
of Jerusalem. After the Akeidah, Abraham called it Yireh. In
deference to both Shem and Abraham, G-d synthesized both names and
called it Yerushalayim"

Shoshanna

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On 15/08/2005 20:54, Read, James C wrote:

>
> Now I am even more confused than ever.
> What three component word? Are you referring to the divine name? Or to
> the place name?
>

I am talking about YOUR name, "James Christian Read", or is it
"Jameschristianread"?


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