Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Read, James C" <K0434995 AT kingston.ac.uk>]

Hi Peter,

I usually pay little attention to the word separations which are arbitrary to 
say the least.
This was a name and I see no reason for it to be split up into two words as 
place names are
generally considered to be one word even though they may be composed of two 
(rather like 
English bookshelf etc.).
I was theorising that if we were to recover the original pronunciation of 
this place name we
could also gather more clues for the YHWH pronuniciation.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Kirk [mailto:peterkirk AT qaya.org]
Sent: Mon 8/15/2005 11:50 AM
To: Read, James C
Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Gen22:13 YHWHYiReH
 
On 15/08/2005 01:48, Read, James C wrote:

>In Gen22:13 Abraham names a place YHWHYireh. In BHS this is pointed as 
>Y:HWaHYiR)eH. Do we know where this 
>place was? Has the name of the place been preserved? Is this pointing 
>original or a masoretic substitution?
>
>  
>
For a start, this is verse 14.

And then in the Hebrew this is two separate words, pointed and accented 
as such: YHWH yir'e. YHWH is pointed in its most common way, with just 
sheva and qamats. Yir'e is a regular verb form, the Qal YIQTOL of R'H, 
and so should be translated "is/was/will be seeing" - and in fact 
precisely the same form is used in v.8. I suppose the common translation 
"provides" or "will provide" in these verses is taken from the context. 
Thus this apparent place name is in fact a complete sentence consisting 
of two words.

-- 
Peter Kirk
peter AT qaya.org (personal)
peterkirk AT qaya.org (work)
http://www.qaya.org/



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Here's a specific issue about the Unicode/XML WLC Tanach (
http://www.cvkimball.com/Tanach/Tanach.xml )
on which your opinion would be valuable:

The Unicode/XML WLC Tanach has 3 "Content" modes selecting "Accents",
"Vowels", or "Consonants".  The "Accents" mode displays everything in
the text: accents, vowels and consonants.  The "Vowels" and "Consonants"
choices show the expected characters PLUS the accents sof pasuq and
maqaf to facilitate reading.

With the goal of providing a useful feature to the viewer, should these
accents (sof pasuq, maqaf) be included  in either the "Vowels" or
"Consonants" mode?