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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant
- From: Dave Washburn <dwashbur AT nyx.net>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant
- Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 16:52:17 -0600
Hmm, funniest looking cherubim I ever saw...
On Tuesday 02 August 2005 16:22, Patrick J. Emsweller wrote:
> Image of the Egyptian Ark.
>
> http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/emec/img/03300.jpg
>
> -patrick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Segall
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:06 PM
> To: Brian Roberts
> Cc: b-hebrew
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant
>
> I have seen a picture of the image, but I do not have a copy. If anyone
> knows where a copy is available I would like to know.
>
> On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Brian Roberts wrote:
> > Stephen;
> >
> > Can you provide us with an image of the Karnak inscription that you say
> > depicts the Ark of the Covenant?
> >
> > On Tuesday, August 2, 2005, at 03:21 PM, Stephen Segall wrote:
> >> What happened to the Ark of the Covenant? After the death of King
> >> Solomon his son Rehoboam became king. The 10 northern tribes revolted
> >> against Rehoboam and formed their own separate kingdom. Rehoboam's
> >> troops refused to fight against their fellow Israelites, so Rehoboam was
> >> left with a small fraction of the population and a fraction of the land
> >> of Solomon's original kingdom.
> >>
> >> This was a tempting target for the king of Egypt who attacked and
> >> overran the truncated Kingdom of Judah. To prevent a siege of Jerusalem,
> >> Rehoboam agreed to let the Egyptians loot Jerusalem and leave without a
> >> fight.
>
> This
>
> >> Egyptian victory was commemorated on a temple wall at Karnak. The wall
> >> carving shows Egyptian soldiers carrying away the Ark of the Covenant.
> >>
> >> While some may argue that just because the ark being taken away by the
> >> Egyptians exactly matches the Ark described in the Torah, it might just
>
> be
>
> >> a chest with carrying rails. This is highly unlikely, since the
> >> magnitude of the Egyptian victory could best be demonstrated by showing
> >> that they were carrying off the Judeans most prize possession. It is
> >> like saying that the menorah being carried away by Roman soldiers on the
> >> arch of
>
> Titus
>
> >> could have been any menorah and not the one from the Second Temple.
> >>
> >> Rehoboam and the Temple priests tried to hide the loss of the Ark from
>
> the
>
> >> population, since admitting the Egyptians had taken the Ark was
>
> tantamount
>
> >> to admitting that God had abandoned the Kingdom of Judah. The secret
>
> could
>
> >> be kept for generations since only the Hign Priest was allowed to enter
> >> the Holy of Holies in the Temple.
> >>
> >> The phrase in the Book of Kings about Josiah ordering the Levites to
> >> return the Ark of the Covenant to the Temple appears to be an
> >> embellishment to the story of the Passover celebration ordered by
> >> Josiah, since no action was taken to execute this command.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Alexander Oldernes wrote:
> >>> Maybe your expertise can help me with this question...
> >>>
> >>> I have read somewhere that when the curtain covering the entrance to
> >>> the Most Holy was torn in two, in the first century CE, the Most Holy
> >>> was exposed containing no Ark of the Covenant. In place of the Ark was
> >>> a
>
> stone
>
> >>> slab upon which the high priest sprinkled the blood on the Day of
> >>> Atonement.
> >>>
> >>> I know the last mention of the Ark of the Covenant is in 2. Chronicles
> >>> 35:5,
> >>> saying:
> >>> He said to the Levites, who instructed all Israel and who had been
> >>> consecrated to YHWH: "Put the sacred ark in the temple that Solomon son
>
> of
>
> >>> David king of Israel built. It is not to be carried about on your
> >>> shoulders."
> >>>
> >>> This happened around 642 (?) BCE.
> >>>
> >>> And now the question...
> >>> Do we know that the Ark of the Covenant was replaced by a stone slab?
> >>>
> >>> If so...
> >>> Who writes about it?
> >>> Do we know when this was done?
> >>> Do we know what the stone slab looked like?
> >>>
> >>> ----
> >>>
> >>> Alexander Oldernes
> >>>
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> > Best Salaams,
> >
> > R. Brian Roberts
> > Amateur Researcher in Biblical Archaeology
>
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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant
, (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant, Read, James C, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant, Brian Roberts, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant,
Read, James C, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant, Dave Washburn, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant, George F Somsel, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant,
Stephen Segall, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant, Dave Washburn, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant,
Brian Roberts, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant,
Stephen Segall, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant,
Patrick J. Emsweller, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant, Dave Washburn, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant,
Stephen Segall, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant,
Patrick J. Emsweller, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant, Brian Roberts, 08/03/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant, Peter Kirk, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant, Brian Roberts, 08/03/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant,
Patrick J. Emsweller, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant,
George Athas, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant,
Yitzhak Sapir, 08/03/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant, Yigal Levin, 08/03/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant, Brian Roberts, 08/03/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant,
Yitzhak Sapir, 08/03/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant,
Patrick J. Emsweller, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant,
Stephen Segall, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Stone slab replacing the Ark of the Covenant, Brian Roberts, 08/02/2005
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