Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Read, James C" <K0434995 AT kingston.ac.uk>]

Plus the fact that the assumptions made are backed up with no 
evidence whatsoever and seem to be little more than the fanciful 
inventions of 1 man.

-----Original Message-----
From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org on behalf of Peter Kirk
Sent: Sat 7/23/2005 2:20 PM
To: Sujata
Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] yhwh pronunciation
 
On 23/07/2005 14:00, Sujata wrote:

>A link that might be of interest
>http://www.bethashem.org/abook/abook26.html
>
>  
>
I'm afraid that this mysticism about the name, which is almost illegible 
because of its tiny font, is of little help in our discussions of the 
origins and original pronunciation of the name.


-- 
Peter Kirk
peter AT qaya.org (personal)
peterkirk AT qaya.org (work)
http://www.qaya.org/

_______________________________________________
b-hebrew mailing list
b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew

This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email
Security System.


This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email
Security System.
>From brocine AT twcny.rr.com  Sat Jul 23 10:33:10 2005
Return-Path: <brocine AT twcny.rr.com>
X-Original-To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Delivered-To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Received: from ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com [24.24.2.58])
        by lists.ibiblio.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7AB14C008
        for <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:33:10 -0400 
(EDT)
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cpe-69-201-48-220.twcny.res.rr.com 
[69.201.48.220])
        by ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id
        j6NEWupl022539; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:33:08 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <42E25517.2060407 AT twcny.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:32:55 -0400
From: "B. M. Rocine" <brocine AT twcny.rr.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.5 (Windows/20050711)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
References: <329F7859694FFF41A2C4D048165EB9E9039FC9 AT postoffice.cbcag.edu>
        <42DD78AA.4050406 AT online.no> <42DDB22E.6040408 AT qaya.org>
        <001501c58d31$a050f020$5e5cfea9@ttttt>
        <42DED0BF.40400 AT qaya.org> <42E22946.4050000 AT twcny.rr.com>
        <42E23B9C.5010506 AT qaya.org>
In-Reply-To: <42E23B9C.5010506 AT qaya.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine
Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] yhwh pronunciation
X-BeenThere: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6
Precedence: list
List-Id: Hebrew Bible List <b-hebrew.lists.ibiblio.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew>,
        <mailto:b-hebrew-request AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/b-hebrew>
List-Post: <mailto:b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
List-Help: <mailto:sympa AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=HELP>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew>,
        <mailto:b-hebrew-request AT lists.ibiblio.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:33:11 -0000

Hi Peter,

A mater he is common on the stele, most often used for kholam (as a
3.m.s. pronominal suffix).  The final he also seems to stand for qamets
in at least three occasions, one an interesting (proper?) noun qorehah
(Jericho?).  I.e. the word has qaph-resh-he-he.  The double he is
interesting.

Shalom,
Bryan

Peter Kirk wrote:
> On 23/07/2005 12:25, B. M. Rocine wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> The Mesha stele, in line 18, has the Tetragrammaton (all four
>> letters).  Did Rolf respond to your request below?  I didn't see a
>> response.
>>
>>
>>
> Thank you, Bryan. No, I haven't had another reply to this. But does the
> Mesha stele use other final he matres lectionis? If so, this is no
> indication that the final he was not a mater lectionis. If not, it is in
> fact quite powerful evidence against the standard understanding of YHWH
> as derived from the root HWH, as in forms of such "lamed-he" verbs the
> final he is always a mater lectionis.
>

--
ÐÏࡱá