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- From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
- To: Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?
- Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 22:40:28 -0500
Bearpecs:
"The "above pattern" is a late construct" compared to what?
I don't recall a single place in Tanakh where niphal is reflexive, could you
please point out examples?
I have other questions concerning what you wrote below, but they are based on
the first one above.
Karl W. Randolph.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bearpecs AT aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 2/5/2005 9:36:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> kwrandolph AT email.com writes:
>
> The above pattern has neither the place nor the need for a "shafel" form.
>
>
> The "above pattern" is a late construct. The niph'al, for example, was
> originally a reflexive, not a passive. Of course you "have found
> that pattern to
> fit the use in Hebrew quite well", because it was created to fit the
> then-current use. The pattern was not intended to incorporate
> diachronic reality.
> The idea that Tanakh retains some archaic verb forms is no more surprising
> than that it occasionally retains archaic words.
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Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?
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Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?,
Karl Randolph, 02/03/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?, Peter Kirk, 02/03/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?,
Karl Randolph, 02/04/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?, Yitzhak Sapir, 02/05/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?,
Karl Randolph, 02/05/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?, Yitzhak Sapir, 02/06/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?, Karl Randolph, 02/05/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?, Bearpecs, 02/06/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?, Bearpecs, 02/06/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?, Karl Randolph, 02/06/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?,
Karl Randolph, 02/06/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?,
Peter Kirk, 02/07/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?,
Yitzhak Sapir, 02/08/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?, Peter Kirk, 02/08/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?,
Yitzhak Sapir, 02/08/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?,
Peter Kirk, 02/07/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?, Karl Randolph, 02/06/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?,
Karl Randolph, 02/08/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?, Yitzhak Sapir, 02/08/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?,
Karl Randolph, 02/03/2005
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