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- From: Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>
- To: Jack Kilmon <jkilmon AT historian.net>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew
- Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:34:05 -0800 (PST)
Jack Kilmon <jkilmon AT historian.net> wrote inter alia:
..."The existing
evidence and lack of evidence strongly suggests Moses and the Exodus as a
pious fiction, or at most a gross exaggeration, constructed in the 8th-7th
centuries BCE (IMO, under Josiah) to give "history" to the group. "....
Yes, this is point of view is fashionable in some circles, e.g.
Finkelstein. But I don't think that opposoite views, especially if held by
established egyptologists like Kitchen and Hoffmeier can be dismissed so
easily, without a point by popint refutation of their arguments.
In my opinion these early periods in Israel's period, as reflected in
biblical narratives should be taken seriously , but only as an Outline
History, or what is called in German Rahmen Geschichte, or proto-history by
A. Malamat.
Season's Greetings, and, as you sometimes say, Shlama
Uri
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Jack Kilmon <jkilmon AT historian.net> wrote inter alia:
..."The existing
evidence and lack of evidence strongly suggests Moses and the Exodus as a
pious fiction, or at most a gross exaggeration, constructed in the 8th-7th
centuries BCE (IMO, under Josiah) to give "history" to the group. "....
Yes, this is point of view is fashionable in some circles, e.g.
Finkelstein. But I don't think that opposoite views, especially if held by
established egyptologists like Kitchen and Hoffmeier can be dismissed so
easily, without a point by popint refutation of their arguments.
In my opinion these early periods in Israel's period, as reflected in
biblical narratives should be taken seriously , but only as an Outline
History, or what is called in German Rahmen Geschichte, or proto-history by
A. Malamat.
Season's Greetings, and, as you sometimes say, Shlama
Uri
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From: Jim West <jwest AT highland.net>
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew
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At 11:02 AM 12/24/2004, you wrote:
>Chapter 1 verse 1: LI$:LOMOH, commonly understood as "by Solomon",
>although I suppose it could mean "for Solomon".
Or to solomon- as a dedicatory note. Which is how it probably should be
taken. Chris has already pointed this out.
>Chapter 1 verse 1: QOHELET B.EN-D.FWID, and then verse 12 HFYIYTIY MELEK:
>etc. Only one son of David was king of Israel, that is Solomon. This is
>surely some kind of authorship claim, whether you believe it to be true or
>not.
What does "ben" mean? Are you suggesting it must always mean "son"?
Jim
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[b-hebrew] END OF TOPIC: AUTHORSHIP
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- [b-hebrew] END OF TOPIC: AUTHORSHIP, B. M. Rocine, 12/24/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew, Heard, Christopher, 12/24/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew,
Giuseppe Regalzi, 12/24/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew,
Jim West, 12/24/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew,
Peter Kirk, 12/24/2004
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- Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew, Peter Kirk, 12/24/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew,
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- Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew, Giuseppe Regalzi, 12/24/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew,
Jim West, 12/24/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew, Heard, Christopher, 12/24/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew, Yigal Levin, 12/24/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew,
Jack Kilmon, 12/24/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew, Uri Hurwitz, 12/24/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew, Peter Kirk, 12/24/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] logograms--an ode to Hebrew, Heard, Christopher, 12/24/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proverbs 5:16 - a declaration or a question ?,
Yigal Levin, 12/26/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proverbs 5:16 - a declaration or a question ?,
Maurice A. O'Sullivan, 12/26/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proverbs 5:16 - a declaration or a question ?, Heard, Christopher, 12/27/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proverbs 5:16 - a declaration or a question ?,
Maurice A. O'Sullivan, 12/26/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proverbs 5:16 - a declaration or a question ?,
Yigal Levin, 12/26/2004
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