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  • From: "Reinier de Blois" <r.de.blois AT solcon.nl>
  • To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Offend/dealt corruptly - chet bet lamed (nehemiah 1:7)
  • Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:35:17 +0200

Dear Karl,

I looked at your definitions of x-b-l but have to conclude that you have
forgotten a number of meanings there. There is nothing about
destruction, nothing about being in labor. If you have a look at the
SDBH website you will see the way I have done it, taking into
consideration all scripture references where x-b-l is found.

Best wishes,

Reinier

> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Karl Randolph
> Sent: maandag 21 juni 2004 4:08
> To: Hebrew
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Offend/dealt corruptly - chet bet
> lamed (nehemiah 1:7)
>
>
> Dear Chris:
>
> We discussed Nehemiah 1:7, and there XBL, in the context,
> could mean "We are surely joined to you".
>
> Likewise in Job 34:31 "For God is not the one who says, I
> lift up but I'm not bound." in other words, God is not a
> fickle God, but what he starts, he completes.
>
> While Reinier de Blois and I disagree on certain meanings,
> the discussion enriches all of us.
>
> The definition, as I understand it, is "XBL to tie in knots
> hence to be bound up, to be bound (to) (either physically
> with ropes, or mentally through moral suasion or contractual
> obligation), to knot, to bind up (pack) into a bundle (to
> carry away), to bind (take as) collateral, to make twisted as
> a knot, to contract (knot up) muscles, to bind up in the
> sense of restrictions."
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wattswestmaas" <wattswestmaas AT eircom.net>
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I was wondering how this root can have the connotation of "dealt
> > corruptly with" and/or "offended" as used in Nehemiah 1:7 and Job
> > 34:31 ? I have, naturally, in mind the fact that this root is so
> > translated no where else (as far as my searches can
> reveal), bearing
> > in mind also that the root is tied (no pun intended) to the idea of
> > 'twisting" ropes and "child birth" (twisting of the cord??)
> The other
> > common way the root is applied from what I can gather is
> "the pledge"
> > in the sense of being obligated (Tied to someone else??).
> >
> > I would be extremely grateful for your thoughts on this.
> >
> > Thankyou. Chris.
>
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