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  • From: "UUC" <unikom AT paco.net>
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  • Subject: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53: oppression?
  • Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 17:22:41 +0300

Dear Harold,



How about otzer?



The translation of confinement (otzer, vs8) as oppression is unwarranted. The
word is also translated thus in Psalm 107:39, which is clearly wrong in
relation to the princes mentioned there. Rulers can be pressed (surrounded
and wander in wastes) but not oppressed. In the only other instance, Proverbs
30:16, the same word refers to barren [womb], also a closed place,
confinement. Because of (from) oppression he was taken is also meaningless,
unless we assume he was taken from this world of oppression to the heavenly
kingdom; but Isaiah does not profess resurrection. In the Tanach, taken [by
God] is used only with Enoch and Elijah, and seems too high-flown considering
the writer's attitude toward his subject. Further, this reading is not
congruent with his soul was exposed to death.

The translation of confinement as perversion or protection is unwarranted.


Sincerely,

Vadim Cherny
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An option, yes...

And what is Cyrus' teaching in 42:4?


Best regards,

Vadim

> Sorry, which last suffix, which verse 55:5?
> Parak? I read it as 2nd masc. singular, pausal form.
> The following is quoted from Gesenius 58:g:
> ak occurs as fem suff. in Is 60:9, but as masc.
> in Dt 6:17, 28:45, Is 30:19, 55:5 always in pause);
> Liz
>
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> > How do you read the last suffix haf in the verse?
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> > Best regards,
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> > Vadim
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