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- From: "Jonathan D. Safren" <yon_saf AT bezeqint.net>
- To: "Lisbeth S. Fried" <lizfried AT umich.edu>, "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic..
- Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 09:52:21 +0200
Title: Re: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic..
Dear
Liz,
I'm not acquainted with Ray Westbrook's study. Could
you please give me the particulars?
>[JDS] I haven't seen a single apodictic law in any
of the ANE law codes. In the treaties, the apodictic formulation is not in
laws but >in treqaty stipulations: "With my friends you shall be
friend >[LSF] I think there are some,
but they refer to taxes, or anduarums, or something like
that.
[JDS] I think you're referring to
the "price lists" at the beginning of Ur-Nammu. They are statements, or economic
tariffs, not apodictic laws.
>>>As for the ANE codes, they serve
to demonstrate the justness of the monarch (cf. the intro. and conclusion to
CH). \legal->>administrative documents from the same places and periods
demonstrate that the actual legal practices were different.
>>[LSF] The same is here as well, only I
suppose the monarch is YHWH.
>[JDS] Where does it say that YHWH is giving
thelaws/covenant because he is just?
>[LSF] Right. I don't
think it says it anywhere, but isn' t that the conclusion you're
supposed
to draw. Indeed, that's the
conclusion Rolf has drawn.
[JDS] I prefer to take the
overt statements in the Torah at face value, as I do the intro. and conclusion
to the CH. And the overt statements refer to chooding Israel to make it His
people, to his love of Israel, to the righteousness of the Patriarchs, etc. The
justness of God is mentioned many times in the bible, but never as the reason
for grantng the covenant.
>>>[LSF] No murder isn't always
punished by death, cf Exodus 21:20. No punishment is listed. How do you translate naqom
>>>yenaqem?
>>[JDS] He shall be avenged. Blood vengeance, meanng
the death penalty. In other words, a slave is worthy of blood vengeance
>>just as is a free man. That;s the punishment. Casuistic law always has a
sanction.
>[LSF} I'm not sure about
this.It seems if so, then it would say mut, yamut. I don't think a
punishment,
>except what is avenged
by God, i/e., if he has an accedental death. But there is no punishment
>assigned. The slave was
his property, and the presumption is you don't purposely
destroy
>your own property. So
the assumption probably is that you can't murder your own
slave
>(Like you can't rape
your wife?), so that there is no death
penalty. The death penalty is mentioned elsewhere in the
Covenant Code without using the term "mot yamut".
Ex. 22:1) If the thief is discovered while breaking in
(at night) and he is smitten and dies, he has no blood [revenge].
2a) If the sun shone upon him (i.e., if he was
discovered and killed in daylight), he has blood
[revenge].
(2b continues the law begun in 22:37. The principle of
associative organization of the laws is operating here, as pointed out by
Cassuto many years ago.)
So both in Ex. 22:20 and in 23:2-3. terms other than
"mot yamut" are used for the death penalty, indicating in both cases who was to
carry out the death penalty - as also in 22:12-14.
As for the presumption of a slave-owner not destroying
his own property, this indeed is operative in 22:21, where the slave smitten by
his master does not die immediately, but several days afterwards. Here, the
cause-and-effect relationship between the blows inflicted by the master and the
death of the slave is no longer unambiguous, and the master is given the benefit
of the doubt.
The principle of benefit of the doubt is still used in
halakhic "pesiqa le-qula" .
Jonathan
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Jonathan D. Safren
Dept. of Biblical Studies
Beit Berl
College |
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RE: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic..
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- RE: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Lisbeth S. Fried, 01/25/2002
- Re: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Jonathan D. Safren, 01/26/2002
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Re: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic..,
Jonathan D. Safren, 01/26/2002
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RE: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic..,
Lisbeth S. Fried, 01/26/2002
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Re: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic..,
Jonathan D. Safren, 01/26/2002
- RE: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Lisbeth S. Fried, 01/27/2002
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Re: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic..,
Jonathan D. Safren, 01/26/2002
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RE: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic..,
Lisbeth S. Fried, 01/26/2002
- RE: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Rolf Furuli, 01/26/2002
- RE: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Peter Kirk, 01/26/2002
- Re: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Glenn Blank, 01/26/2002
- RE: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Lisbeth S. Fried, 01/26/2002
- Re: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Jonathan D. Safren, 01/27/2002
- Re: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Jonathan D. Safren, 01/27/2002
- Re: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Bearpecs, 01/27/2002
- RE: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Lisbeth S. Fried, 01/27/2002
- RE: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Peter Kirk, 01/27/2002
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Re: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic..,
Jonathan D. Safren, 01/27/2002
- RE: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Peter Kirk, 01/27/2002
- Re: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Rolf Furuli, 01/27/2002
- Re: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Awohili, 01/27/2002
- RE: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Shoshanna Walker, 01/27/2002
- Re: Monotheism was: "admittedly syncretistic.., Jonathan D. Safren, 01/28/2002
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