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  • From: Andrew Stitt <afrayedknot AT thefrayedknot.armory.com>
  • To: sm-grimoire AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Grimoire]Unfiled spells
  • Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 13:22:50 -0700

On Sat, Sep 07, 2002 at 12:22:25PM -0700, Seth Woolley wrote:
> I heavily suggest using Bugzilla. People from other projects (like
> mozilla) are quite used to Bugzilla, and even if they aren't, I believe it
> is actually easier than hand-trodding through the mailing lists. I
> presume you could download all the archive files by month, but then you'd
> need to grep them as a collection, and you'd only get the correct lines
> that matched, unless you went ahead and add -A and -B switches... I think
> I get my point across.
>
> Bugzilla is easier for me. It is available, I don't have to be subscribed
> to it to search it in an easy manner. If you are subscribed to a mailing
> list, it is about as easy as bugzilla because your mailing program then
> acts like the database program, however, why not let everyone use
> bugzilla and not have to subscribe?
>
> To find a listing of the bugs, you can select all of any field
> practically, and hit search. I just use the top-left field to do this.
> It seems to work fine, but even better with Bugzilla, you can select all
> the bugs relating to a certain section of the grimoire, if we set it up
> that way (as someone else already mentioned).
>
> I don't consider bugzilla queries something to fight against. Does
> anybody have a reason why they would be (other than assertion)?
>
> Maybe my experience with databases means I have made the making of
> queries too intuited to truly understand where people would have a
> difficult time with a query system such as bugzilla -- a kind of second
> nature through learning?
>
> But we can't just assume to lock people out who aren't used to the system.
>
> If we just had a page that listed the bugs in bugzilla linearly, would
> that appease the mailing-list, flat-file people?
>
> Maybe there's a compromise.
>
> Seth
>
heres my main problem with bugzilla, if i go there and look for something
i have a half dozen fields to try and mess with when im not particularly
interested in anything they have to offer. There doesnt seem to be anyway
to just selectively ignore some option, they are all there whether i
want them to be there or not, so i end up having to go through and set
them all each time. even then do i really know its exhaustively searching
everything? or did i miss an option somewhere?

a flat file of bugzilla would be nice, that was the first thing i looked
for 'tell me everything thats going on' another nice thing for us cli
people is to be able to just query through a command line tool instead
of having to manually go through the web interface, id have no problem
not using a mailing list of some sort if i could just type a command
and get all the bugs related to the grimoire team. but thats wishful
thinking ;)

in reality a mailing list with bugzilla is the best solution, that
way its easy to check (and with biff it tells you, instead of you asking
it), and everything thats a bug is in bugzilla too.




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