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  • From: Seth Woolley <seth AT tautology.org>
  • To: sm-grimoire AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Grimoire]Unfiled spells
  • Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:22:25 -0700 (PDT)

I heavily suggest using Bugzilla. People from other projects (like
mozilla) are quite used to Bugzilla, and even if they aren't, I believe it
is actually easier than hand-trodding through the mailing lists. I
presume you could download all the archive files by month, but then you'd
need to grep them as a collection, and you'd only get the correct lines
that matched, unless you went ahead and add -A and -B switches... I think
I get my point across.

Bugzilla is easier for me. It is available, I don't have to be subscribed
to it to search it in an easy manner. If you are subscribed to a mailing
list, it is about as easy as bugzilla because your mailing program then
acts like the database program, however, why not let everyone use
bugzilla and not have to subscribe?

To find a listing of the bugs, you can select all of any field
practically, and hit search. I just use the top-left field to do this.
It seems to work fine, but even better with Bugzilla, you can select all
the bugs relating to a certain section of the grimoire, if we set it up
that way (as someone else already mentioned).

I don't consider bugzilla queries something to fight against. Does
anybody have a reason why they would be (other than assertion)?

Maybe my experience with databases means I have made the making of
queries too intuited to truly understand where people would have a
difficult time with a query system such as bugzilla -- a kind of second
nature through learning?

But we can't just assume to lock people out who aren't used to the system.

If we just had a page that listed the bugs in bugzilla linearly, would
that appease the mailing-list, flat-file people?

Maybe there's a compromise.

Seth

On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Jeremy Kolb wrote:

> Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 14:54:43 -0500
> From: Jeremy Kolb <jkolb AT brandeis.edu>
> To: Andrew Stitt <afrayedknot AT thefrayedknot.armory.com>
> Cc: sm-grimoire AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [SM-Grimoire]Unfiled spells
>
> I agree with Andrew. I find it very hard to navigate through Bugzilla,
> I can find what I am looking for if I know a search term, but if I just
> want to go through a listing of the bugs I have no idea how to
> accomplish this.
>
> Jeremy
>
> Andrew Stitt wrote:
>
> >> I don't have much to add here, only that instead of sending an ITP
> >>message, you could enter the bug in bugzilla and assign it to yourself.
> >>That way there's a centralized place (Bugzilla) for all the spells and
> >>assignments.
> >>
> >> Just a thought,
> >> Jonathan Evraire
> >> evraire at tuwg.com
> >>
> >>
> >i tend to disagree, maybe i just dont know how to use it but i find it
> >much more difficult to put a query in buzilla and actually get what im
> >looking for then it is to check an email list, not only that, its faster
> >and simpler. we dont lose out on the web logging that bugzilla provides
> >because its trivially easy to mainting list traffic archives online
> >not to mention if someone had the question "i winder what the grimoire
> >team has been up to?" all they have to do is look at that emailing list
> >archive instead of fight their way through bugzilla queries.
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