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  • From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflj@bellsouth.net>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] New online Certificate course
  • Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 12:39:46 -0400

On 5/4/2013 12:17 AM, Michael Pilarski wrote:
I would like to see a comparative review of all the on-line pc design
courses offered. Prices, etc. Dan Hemenway has offered them for
years. I believe there are others in Australia ? (pre Geoff L). I
have deep respect for Andrew Millison and Marisha Auerbach who are
offering a new on-line course. Who are the others?

1) price, affordability
2) time required
3) lack of real-time feedback from other course participants (or is this made available through any course offerings). A solution would be for PDC's to include an online forum for students taking the course and another for the public to offer feedback. This list could serve that purpose very well if those offering PDC's would use it for that purpose.
Another issue is that those offering PDC's may not want to share _anything_ with non students, other PDC teachers or the public at large, such things as course content, course participants and graduates, supplemental educational material, course content and any innovations unique to their offerings.

I would also like to hear some comments by people who have gone
through an on-line pdc. They would be the best people to judge how
well it works. If there is no one on this list serve who has done an
on-line course that is not a good sign. If there is no one who has
taken an on-line course that would give it good marks that is not a
good sign.


I think on-line courses have their place, but just like residential
or weekend pdcs they are not all created equal.


As Peter Bane opines, $2200 for Geoff Lawton's online pdc is not a
good deal. Geoff L. says his course is limited in size? How
limited, I would like to know.

I can understand charging a lot of money for a product you offer but
if you're just maxing that out to get as much as the market will bear
then your customer base will be limited to those on a relatively high income level. That's good too because of the very real benefits to them but it leaves out the group of people I think will do the most with what they learn and help take the permaculture movement the farthest, in the long term and will certainly create a feedback loop serving that community in the future. Grass roots permaculture.





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