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[Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>]

Wes thanks for your perceived clarification and again how irritating it is
to see your gross distortion on what is stated. I have never had any
adverse comment or negative criticism of the international community you
refer to but have in fact well before your time offered a considerable
amount of my time and investment to the cause. And I may add not as my own
franchise to promote myself as Geoff Lawton clearly did and continues to
do. . Which you are totally ignorant of in both counts. The website and
hosting was a critical element to move on to the next IPC host. This was
clearly stated and requested at Jordan. This transfer was never achieved or
carried out by Jordan. To counteract this Roberto and his support network
in Australia have launched a totally new website independent of the
original. Lets focus on supporting that and all the new structures and
systems that will evolve from it to go onto IPC12 in London leaving the
baggage behind..It appears to me that you have constantly distorted the
issues and not  managed the position of moderator for the IPC Support Group
with the honest integrity, impartial  honesty and clarity needed. It is
time long overdue you offered the position to someone else. Perhaps the
obvious maybe from within the PC UK Assoc....With that the Support Group
also needs restructuring in order to define its roles, objectives, purpose,
structure and responsibility. Perhaps another item for the IPC11 Cuba
agenda .....Steve Hart

On 8 October 2012 16:31, Wesley Roe and Santa Barbara Permaculture Network <
lakinroe@silcom.com> wrote:

> hi Steve
> here is 7 years work by the international community to build a
> transferable website www.ipcon.org to move from one IPC to the next with
> Archives first started in 2005
>
>    you always surprise me Steve , what planet are you on , do you always
> like to throw hateful email bombs into an international community that
> has worked over 7 years to build a transferable webite for the IPC
> International conference starting with Ali Sharif in Brasil 2007 ,
> Walter in Africa and yes Craig in jordan all volunteered their time to
> build a transferable website . Ali first built the website for the
> community 2005-2007 with the International Support Committee(at IPC7
> 2005 in Croatia he was asked to to build the website) he spent $20,000
> on website (building and postings)another $15,000 (working to make it
> transfer from Brasil to Africa with Archive)was spent for IPC8 Africa .
> You Steve where missing in action for most of this . Right now the IPC
> website is hosted in the US with archives from IPC's and because of Cuba
> embargo the website will be build in Australia with links from IPC
> www.ipcon.org. Steve i have never seen you donate 1 penny to this effort
> other than your toxic voice,
>
> don't waste more of our time exhausting your hateful Geoff mantra on us
> we
>
> On 10/8/12 6:18 AM, Steve Hart wrote:
> > Hi Bob...its owned by Geoff Lawton....who ran IPC10 in Jordan as a Geoff
> > Lawton sideshow or self promotion exercise. A sham and a shambles filled
> > with Lawton psychophants.  Many people have woken up to his charade
> > hypocrasy, evangelism and manipulation, abuse, insult, lies and deceit
> but
> > far too many have not yet woken up. Those that have stay well clear of
> him.
> > His Cuban experience is well known by a select few who don't want to have
> > anything to do with him. New vehicles are forming as we speak to cater
> for
> > an honest support system and networks.....Steve Hart
> >
> > On 8 October 2012 14:40, Bob Waldrop<bob@bobwaldrop.net>  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Who owns this website -- http://www.ipcon.org/ -- and why is it still
> >> showing the IPCON 10 info from Jordan and has nothing to say about the
> >> Cuban event?
> >>
> >> Bob Waldrop, OKC
> >>
> >> On 10/7/2012 11:31 PM, Steve Hart wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Celeste
> >>>
> >>> This has been an idea desired for a number of IPCs. It'd be great if we
> >>> could finally pull it off one day. I'll forward this to Domen and see
> >>>
> >> what
> >>
> >>> we can muster. I meet with him again on the 21st in Slovenia. I'll also
> >>>
> >> add
> >>
> >>> Andy Goldring into this loop for he is the convenor on behalf of PC
> >>>
> >>   Assoc
> >>
> >>> UK for IPC12 in London who is also assisting Roberto with logistics.
> >>>
> >>> We must have more techno geeks in our membership now who would like to
> >>> assist....so please step forward.
> >>> Thanks again Steve Hart
> >>>
> >>> On 8 October 2012 05:50, Celeste<csalter@iinet.net.au>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>    Hi Steve and Ben
> >>>>
> >>>> Steve - posted this notice about  IPC 11 in the PIL list a couple of
> >>>>
> >> weeks
> >>
> >>>> ago.
> >>>> Ben - I'm including you in this email as you've been to IPC10 and also
> >>>> will now about Wiser and may have some ideas as well on what follows
> >>>>
> >>>> The recent European National Convergence had a virtual competent that
> >>>>
> >> was
> >>
> >>>> created (I think at the kind of last moment) by 3 members
> >>>> Domen,  Stella and Jose using this space :
> >>>>
> >> http://www.wiser.org/group/EUPC:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know how well it worked yet - but it would be a great thing to
> >>>>
> >> try
> >>
> >>>> out for IPC 11 if there was a will to do so to help more people be
> >>>> connected to the conference (and maybe convergence)
> >>>>
> >>>> Here is the email to contact Stella: *veupc@permaculturescience.net*
> >>>>
> >>>> I am happy to assist in the Wiser end if there is a view to seeing how
> >>>>
> >> it
> >>
> >>>> might all work
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know who to contact to take this idea further - which is why
> you
> >>>> two lovely gentlemen have received this email :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers Celeste
> >>>> Permie in Australia, and Wiser.org Online Community Manager
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 22/09/2012 1:26 AM, Steve Hart wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    IPC11 CUBA Nov 11-Dec 6 2013
> >>>>
> >>>> hi everyone
> >>>> here is the schedule
> >>>>
> >>>> Contact Email for IPC11 Cuba for Information w ipc11cuba@gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>> *Dates for Conference Convergence $ Tours Nov-11-Dec 6 2013 MARK YOUR
> >>>> CALENDARS *
> >>>> 11 Nov - 24 Nov    PDC (Mon - Sun)
> >>>> 25 Nov - 27 Nov    Conference (Mon - Wed)
> >>>> 28 Nov                   Urban site visits (Thu)
> >>>> 29 Nov - 03 Dec    IPC-11 (Fri - Tue)
> >>>>
> >>>> MORE DETAIL
> >>>>
> >>>> IPC11 Cuba Nov 11-Dec 6 2013
> >>>>
> >>>>    Monday 11/11/2013 - Sunday 24/11/2013
> >>>> Pre IPC International Permaculture Design Course
> >>>>
> >>>> Monday 25/11/2013- Wednesday 27/11/2013
> >>>> IPC 11 Conference Havana
> >>>>    Place: Pabellon Cuba, 23 and M, vedado
> >>>> Day 1- Accreditation.  Permaculture in Islands
> >>>> Day 2- Permaculture and Climate Change
> >>>> Day 3- Urban Permaculture
> >>>>
> >>>> Thursday 28/11/2013
> >>>> Visit to Urban Permaculture sites in Havana
> >>>>
> >>>> Friday 29/11/2013 – Tuesday 3/12/2013
> >>>> International Permaculture Convergence
> >>>>    Place: Camping Base Los Cocos, Mayabeque Prinvince
> >>>> Day 1- travel from Havana to Los Cocos. Accreditation, accommodation,
> >>>> discussing of the program
> >>>> Day 2-
> >>>> Day 3-
> >>>> Day 4-
> >>>> Day 5-
> >>>>
> >>>> Wednesday 4/12/2013 – Friday 6/12/2013
> >>>> IPC 11 Tours
> >>>>    Visits outside Havana
> >>>> 1 day tour- Visit to Matanzas, return to Havana, people need
> >>>>
> >> accommodation
> >>
> >>>> that night in Havana.
> >>>> 2 day tour-
> >>>> Day 1 as Matanzas, night at Centro Cristiano in Cárdenas,
> >>>> day 2 Continue travel to Sancti Spiritus visit to gardens and sites,
> >>>> overnight there or people can choose to return to Havana in the night.
> >>>> 3 day tour
> >>>> Day 1 as matanzas
> >>>> Day 2 as sancti spiritus
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> IPC-support mailing list
> >>>> IPC-support@ipcon.org
> >>>> http://ipcon.org/mailman/listinfo/ipc-support
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Kia ora
> >>>> [image: Picture]
> >>>> Steve Hart
> >>>> Ecology Architect
> >>>>    skype: stevenlawrencehart
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Pil-pc-oceania mailing listPil-pc-oceania@mailman.aboc.net.auhttp://
> >>>>
> >> mailman.aboc.net.au/mailman/listinfo/pil-pc-oceania
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Cheers Celeste
> >>>> http://www.bmrenew.org - our local community owned renewable energy
> >>>> project
> >>>> http://www.wiser.org - social network for sustainability and social
> >>>> justice
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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