permaculture

[Ray Cirino <cobanation@yahoo.com>]

Dear Greenroof folks,
If we are going to do green roofs we need a way up and down everyday that is 
also green. Please help us make this happen for all of us to help increase 
the developement of our hard work.
Check out:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1366620629/garden-in-the-stars-botanical-tower-by-ray-cirino?ref=live

Regards,
Ray Cirino
818-834-7074
Garden in the Stars Project

The Great Challenges we now face as a species present the very opportunities 
that are giving birth to Ecological, Psychological, and Spiritual 
Sustainability.
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On 10/7/2012 11:36 PM, Ray Cirino wrote:
> Dear Greenroof folks,
> If we are going to do green roofs we need a way up and down everyday that 
> is also green. Please help us make this happen for all of us to help 
> increase the developement of our hard work.

Consider the liability factor. Forget green for ladders, staircases, 
fire escapes, etc. Use welded/bolted steel with Trex steps, extra wide, 
like two 5/4 X 6 Trex plants used for decking = 5/4 X 12. Other options 
would include modern non toxic pre3ssure treated lumber combined with 
Trex stair treads. Save the green for the rooftop. Dress the gardeners 
in Jolly Green Giant costumes...

Other considerations might be redwood, cedar, locust lumber and resawn 
fir bridge timbers for major structural elements, i.e. posts and 
framework, risers and headers.

Fir beams were used in railroad trestles. I bought some 24' 8X24 beams 
to use on landscape jobs years ago when a RR line was being taken out 
and the trestle taken down. A cool Canadian came down here, worked 
mostly by himself, burning bolts with his acetylene torch and using his 
logger's knuckleboom loader to dismantle the beams and stack them for 
local sale. Talk about recycling! That was a byegone era.

> Check out:
>
> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1366620629/garden-in-the-stars-botanical-tower-by-ray-cirino?ref=live
>
> Regards,
> Ray Cirino
> 818-834-7074
> Garden in the Stars Project
>
> The Great Challenges we now face as a species present the very 
> opportunities that are giving birth to Ecological, Psychological, and 
> Spiritual Sustainability.