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[FranandDave Nokes <fdnokes@hotmail.com>]

Have enjoyed this whole discussion tremendously, bringing out all the points.
I love this last piece about the snail's pace.
Thanks for sharing.
It's one of those things that is so helpful to hear someone else talk about 


> From: jasongerhardt@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:38:10 -0600
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Permaculture Standards.
> 
> I recently asked myself why I teach permaculture versus why I design (I
> currently spend about 60% of my time designing/40% teaching). The answer
> was that I do it for the same reason, which is to increase the amount of
> quality systems that get designed AND implemented.  Very basically I want
> to live in a more functional world. Insofar as standards and ones approach
> to increasing permaculture design actually result in good designs being put
> in place then it doesn’t really matter to me how it gets accomplished.
> Unfortunately, the “mainstream” way of thinking and acting nearly always
> puts image over reality (or form over function) so it is mostly a smoke and
> mirrors approach, all the while raking in big money and increasing ones
> disproportionate sense of self. It is highly unlikely this approach will
> work toward the development of a more sane, just, and ecological
> civilization.
> 
> 
> 
> As Scott says, “permaculturists are edge dwellers”. I think the
> mainstreaming of permaculture will be the rebirth of true permaculture by a
> different name. That will be an unfortunate day (if it comes to pass) and
> only serve to delay the good that “permaculture design” can do.
> 
> 
> 
> One of the primary functions of the PDC is to facilitate the transformation
> of perspectives, paradigms, and thinking patterns of the participants. If
> people are leaving the course with a commercialized mindset (franchising,
> branding, mainstreaming), something is wrong with the presentation. And
> this should be subject to the scrutiny of the wider community. It annoys me
> endlessly when permaculturists talk about expediting the spread of
> permaculture. As if a fast track approach will lead to quality designs (or
> designERS) being developed. For the most part, the creative forces of
> nature move at a snails pace (the destructive forces of nature are much
> faster). As natural pattern mimickers why do permaculturists have such a
> hard time accepting small and slow solutions?
> 
> 
> 
> As a young teenager on the streets, the older gangsters liked to quote an
> old Chinese proverb when telling us youngsters about survival: “Patience is
> a virtue”. Sage advice that applies to the permaculture movement.
> 
> -- 
> Jason Gerhardt
> Designer and Educator
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