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  • From: Chris Lumpkin <clumpkin@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Permaculture standards.
  • Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:49:25 -0400

Permaculture is so awesome, it may not need anyone to defend its honor...
it can just be such an amazingly fundamentally "right" way of doing things,
when everyone sees all the healthy food and culture bursting forth from
this community, they won't have anything better to replace it with.
Perpetuating and improving these concepts is its own reward, and I prefer
to spend my energy paying the goodness forward. If I think someone is
perpetuating ideas that are not as awesome, I still continue putting my
energy into what IS. If I try to stop the bad ideas by negating them, I see
it as giving them my energy... sort of like free advertising for the stuff
I do not wish to be.

Don't get me wrong, I do love the occasional debate or argument, if it is
pointing in the right direction of harmonizing different energy sources
into a positive thing.

Cory, "true cost accounting" is exactly what the world needs more of! I
call it "Calorie counting", as in units of heat energy expended to make
something. There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch!

-Chris


On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yes, well said, very, very real stuff!
>
> Koreen Brennan
>
> www.growpermaculture.com
> www.meetup.com/sustainable-urban-agriculture-coalition
> www.meetup.com/createclearwater
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: venaurafarm <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 6:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Permaculture standards.
>
> On 7/23/2012 5:58 PM, Cory Brennan wrote:
> > If people walk away from a permaculture class with one concept - true
> > cost accounting, life cycle analysis, whatever you want to call it,
> > they are going to have a harder time justifying their destructive
> > lifestyles. Many of us went through that curve. The more REAL data
> > that gets out there, the better. It impinges.
>
> Well said, Koreen. Thumbs up to that. Classic.
>
> > Yes, some people will
> > twist it, they won't get it, they will try to "sell" it. But we just
> > keep the focus and keep putting out fundamental truths, and that sort
>
> > of thing impinges. The alternative is to keep peramculture a secret
> > that isn't going to get used at all in any form whatever, by the
> > majority of the people on the planet, right?
>
> Is that the woo-woo thing :-) Of all the "modern", new age, alternative
> movements, real, from the ground up permaculture is the least woo woo.
>
> > Koreen Brennan
> >
> > www.growpermaculture.com
> > www.meetup.com/sustainable-urban-agriculture-coalition
> > www.meetup.com/createclearwater
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