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[Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net>]

Why would we need to travel to do this?   If this is what we want to 
achieve, why couldn't we do this, well, right here and right now for 
example?

It could be an exercise in cooperative permaculture design -- 
observation, evaluation, design work, implementation.

I've always thought that some kind of a large project, operated in 
cyberspace, involving permaculture people from "all over the map" would 
not only be fun, we would all learn a lot from it and it might even do 
some good.

Bob Waldrop, OKC

On 7/16/2012 3:23 PM, Cory Brennan wrote:
> I would say it would be worth the travel miles if we actually walk away with 
> a plan to expand permaculture in multiple areas much more quickly than it is 
> happening and actually execute it. Then it would be worth it.
>
>
> ________________________________
>   From: Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net>
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Fwd: Nth American Conf
>   
> Why do we think that this event would be worth the damage the travel and
> etc associated with it would cause the earth's ecologies? Haven't we
> done enough harm to all with our sense of entitlement to all the travel
> we can manage to pay for with dollars?  Especially those of us who are
> privileged First World people?
>
> The Union of Concerned Scientists recently released a book on global
> warming and transportation/travel is one of the three major contributors
> to the emissions driving climate change.  They say one imperative of the
> future is that we need to drive less and travel less.  If we do travel,
> the kindest-to-the-earth method of travel is to take the bus.
>
> So in the spirit of harm reduction, at minimum if this event occurs it
> should be in a city easily accessible by bus travel, and travel by air
> and automobile should be actively discouraged by the organizers.  If it
> becomes a regular thing, it should not be an annual event, but instead
> should be at most once every four years.
>
> Bob Waldrop, OKC
> http://www.bettertimesinfo.org/permaculture350.pdf -- Hacking
> permaculture in 350 words
>
>
>
> On 7/16/2012 6:41 AM, venaurafarm wrote:
> > Steve Hart
> > Ecology Architect
> > skype: stevenlawrencehart
> >
> > Nth American Permaculture Conference ?
> >
> > Hey guys...not so long ago there was discussion on a likely Conference
> > for all Nth America...whats happened to that energy ? has anyone picked
> > up the challenge?, taken an initiative and moved it forward ? Skeeta,
> > are you still in there ? I reckon its time to take the bull by the horns
> > and jump in the deep end.
> >
> > At the International Conference in Jordan, IPC10, Scott Pitman and I
> > discussed future international structures in a workshop. There has been
> > waned discussion since but with Cuba's IPC11 just around the corner the
> > agenda will gain more development. One thread is to realise the
> > continental regions of the world. Then to consider each region having
> > conferences. Europe is already well advanced on this with their 12th
> > Conference happening in Kassel this year 1-5th August. Central America
> > has had a few. No other region to my knowledge has gone there yet.
> >
> > Something worthy of development eh what ?
> >
> > Steve Hart
> >
> >
> >
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