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  • From: Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net>
  • To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Fwd: Nth American Conf
  • Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:05:59 -0500

Why would we need to travel to do this? If this is what we want to achieve, why couldn't we do this, well, right here and right now for example?

It could be an exercise in cooperative permaculture design -- observation, evaluation, design work, implementation.

I've always thought that some kind of a large project, operated in cyberspace, involving permaculture people from "all over the map" would not only be fun, we would all learn a lot from it and it might even do some good.

Bob Waldrop, OKC

On 7/16/2012 3:23 PM, Cory Brennan wrote:
I would say it would be worth the travel miles if we actually walk away with
a plan to expand permaculture in multiple areas much more quickly than it is
happening and actually execute it. Then it would be worth it.


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From: Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net>
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Fwd: Nth American Conf
Why do we think that this event would be worth the damage the travel and
etc associated with it would cause the earth's ecologies? Haven't we
done enough harm to all with our sense of entitlement to all the travel
we can manage to pay for with dollars? Especially those of us who are
privileged First World people?

The Union of Concerned Scientists recently released a book on global
warming and transportation/travel is one of the three major contributors
to the emissions driving climate change. They say one imperative of the
future is that we need to drive less and travel less. If we do travel,
the kindest-to-the-earth method of travel is to take the bus.

So in the spirit of harm reduction, at minimum if this event occurs it
should be in a city easily accessible by bus travel, and travel by air
and automobile should be actively discouraged by the organizers. If it
becomes a regular thing, it should not be an annual event, but instead
should be at most once every four years.

Bob Waldrop, OKC
http://www.bettertimesinfo.org/permaculture350.pdf -- Hacking
permaculture in 350 words



On 7/16/2012 6:41 AM, venaurafarm wrote:
Steve Hart
Ecology Architect
skype: stevenlawrencehart

Nth American Permaculture Conference ?

Hey guys...not so long ago there was discussion on a likely Conference
for all Nth America...whats happened to that energy ? has anyone picked
up the challenge?, taken an initiative and moved it forward ? Skeeta,
are you still in there ? I reckon its time to take the bull by the horns
and jump in the deep end.

At the International Conference in Jordan, IPC10, Scott Pitman and I
discussed future international structures in a workshop. There has been
waned discussion since but with Cuba's IPC11 just around the corner the
agenda will gain more development. One thread is to realise the
continental regions of the world. Then to consider each region having
conferences. Europe is already well advanced on this with their 12th
Conference happening in Kassel this year 1-5th August. Central America
has had a few. No other region to my knowledge has gone there yet.

Something worthy of development eh what ?

Steve Hart



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