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  • From: jamesdavid Sneed <harvestcircle@hotmail.com>
  • To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] climate change possibly irreversible
  • Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:11:59 -0700


Good point, Rain. It always seems to surprise me how hung up people get
promoting the use of machines to plant, and jets to fly to planting
conferences, in order to plant trees to counter the burning of fuels in those
machines and jets. Can't the conferences and workshops be online? And maybe
if we were hand-planters instead of tractor-jocks we would be spreading a
consciousness of intimacy with the earth and its plants instead of bragging
about new planting machines.

> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:26:34 -0700
> From: raincascadia@yahoo.com
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [permaculture] climate change possibly irreversible
>
> I really appreciate all the efforts that are being made to find ways to
> sequester carbon (Darren Doherty's posts are always inspiring), and these
> efforts make sense on a lot of levels, but I just want to put a reminder
> out there that we need to pay attention to the latest science and not get
> overly optimistic. While they are still duking it out, this NOAA report
> from over a year ago denies the possibility of reversing climate change
> within any reasonable time frame:
>
> http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090126_climate.html
>
> A new scientific study led by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
> Administration reaches a powerful conclusion about the climate change
> caused by future increases of carbon dioxide: to a large extent, there’s no
> going back.
> The pioneering study, led by NOAA senior scientist Susan Solomon, shows how
> changes in surface temperature, rainfall, and sea level are largely
> irreversible for more than 1,000 years after carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions
> are completely stopped. The findings appear during the week of January 26
> in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
>
> Geoengineering to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere was not
> considered in the study. “Ideas about taking the carbon dioxide away after
> the world puts it in have been proposed, but right now those are very
> speculative,” said Solomon.
>
>
>
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