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--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Joan Ewing <mamajoane@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Joan Ewing <mamajoane@yahoo.com>
Subject: Permaculture Design Course plus Naturalist Immersion for Children at 
Camp Epworth
To: "Northeast Permaculture" <northeasternpermaculture@lists.riseup.net>
Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 9:44 AM

Dear Friends,

Please pass this announcement on to other folks who might be interested in 
learning about this inspiring opportunity.

Peace,

Joan Ewing
 and Wilton Duckworth

ADULT PERMACULTURE DESIGN CERTIFICATION COURSE alongside a NATURALIST 
IMMERSION PROGRAM for CHILDREN
Sponsored by Green Phoenix Permaculture

PERMACULTURE is a set of tools and a process for designing a way to live 
sustainably within our ecosystems and our communities. It is based on 
observing nature and making connections
 across disciplines and over
 history, with the goal of meeting human
 needs, while leaving the earth
 healthier and more
 abundant for future generations.

A unique opportunity for families. While adults participate in a permaculture 
design course, children explore the natural world around them. An autumn to 
spring program which allows an opportunity to experience both programs 
through 3 seasons. Children ages 7 through 12 will be
 accepted. Permaculture Design students are welcome with or without children. 
This is a standard, 72 hour permaculture certificate course.

WHERE:  Epworth Camp and Retreat Center, High Falls, NY, 2 hours north of New 
York City, 15 minutes from the Trailways Bus station in Rosendale.

WHEN: Six Weekends in 2009-2010. Resident students can arrive Friday evening. 
PDC classes and children's programs take place on Saturday and Sunday [Sunday 
for children of resident pdc students]

 2009: October 10-11, November 7-8, December 12-13
 2010: January 23-24, March 13-14, April 10-11    
             
TEACHERS: 
PERMACULTURE
 DESIGN COURSE: Coordinating teacher Kay McGrenaghan Cafasso, with Andrew 
Jones, Eric Toensmeier, Ethan Roland and other local guest teachers.
NATURALIST IMMERSION FOR CHILDREN: Coordinating teacher, Krista Oarcea and a 
team of teachers,
 assistants and mentors.

TEACHER BIOS:

Kay Cafasso is a certified permaculture designer, a permaculture design 
course instructor and natural builder specializing in earthen finishes and 
plasters for straw bale homes. She conducts many educational events and 
courses, and offers permaculture design services and consultation for home 
landscapes across the Northeast. She is inspired by the ability to recognize 
beneficial patterns of nature in order to regenerate life systems in all 
climates. Kay believes in thoughtful and holistic design of landscapes, 
agriculture, dwellings and communities.

Krista Oarcea graduated from the Waldorf Institute at Sunbridge College in 
1993. Krista founded and has taught for ten years the Morning Garden Home 
Nursery Kindergarten, where she guides children to discover the wonders of 
the earth and to attune to the
 natural cycles of the year. She has led nature awareness programs for 
children at Vermont's Art of Mentoring and Red Fox Friends. She is an 
herbalist, wild-crafter, avid seedsaver and plant breeder, who mentors on 
cultivating land stewardship with children.

COURSE DESCRIPTIONS:

PERMACULTURE DESIGN COURSE:  

Students will study permaculture principals, woven through a range of topic 
areas, using a variety of learning methods: lectures and interactive 
discussions, slides and films, design exercises and hands on activities. Each 
student will present a research project and a final design presentation.

Topics Include: Climate systems, Sustainable Agriculture, Annual and Forest 
Gardening, Natural Building, Renewable Energy, Reading the landscape, Trees 
and Ecological  Regeneration, Water and Alternative Waste Systems, 
Bioremediation, Alternative Economies, Building Strong Communities and More...
Daily Schedule will be generally 9am-5:30, with some Saturday evening 
programs.

NATURALIST IMMERSION FOR CHILDREN: [For children ages 7 through 12]
This unique program will provide a setting in which each child can rekindle 
his or her innate connection to nature in an inspiring, safe, fun way. 
Through nature-based games, arts activities and mentoring, children will: 
Learn permaculture design principals and stewardship ethics, develop an 
intimate, personal connection with nature,
 explore tracking, species and the ecology of landscape and habitat, 
participate in sensory awareness activities, practice
 journaling, drawing and painting, have lots and lots of fun!  Daily schedule 
will be generally 9am-5:30.

COST: Tuition, Lodging, Food

PERMACULTURE DESIGN COURSE: Sliding scale $800-$1500, with the possibility of 
paying $700 if you bring another person. This cost covers tuition, lodging 
and use of the facilities. Sliding scale is on an honor system. Please give 
generously if you are able. This will help us meet our expenses and possibly 
offer scholarships and work trade to students who cannot
 afford the sliding scale. [Amounts between $1200-$1500 and over are 
considered a tax deductible donation.]

Food: Food is potluck,
 except for breakfasts, which are provided, and a welcome supper for 
travelers on Friday evening. Students will be requested to provide prepared 
food to cover specific meals and snacks for the group for Saturday and 
Sunday. We have a history of eating fabulous food.

NATURALIST IMMERSION FOR CHILDREN:  Sliding scale $240-450 for Saturdays 
[Open to the community] for all 6 weeks. [This comes to $40-75/day]. Sundays 
[a small program especially for children of traveling permaculture
 students] are also $240-450 [$40-75/day] for all 6 weeks. $480-900/weekend 
for all 6 weeks.
As above, sliding scale is an honor system. Please give as generously as you 
are able to help us meet expenses and provide possible scholarships. Amounts 
over $450 are considered a tax deductible donation. 

Food: Parents will be asked to provide lunches for their children. [We will 
contact parents who are also traveling permaculture students as part of the 
design course potluck.]

REGISTRATION: 
1. In order to temporarily reserve a place in either program, please contact 
Joan Ewing at 845-687-7646 or mamajoane@yahoo.com and let me know that you 
want to register yourself for the pdc or your child for the children's 
program.

2. In order to secure your or your child's place, please send a $100 deposit 
check,
 payable to Green Phoenix Permaculture with the appropriate attached 
registration form to Green Phoenix Permaculture, 8 Epworth Lane, High Falls, 
NY 12440

3. Deadline:  Please send in the full amount [payable to Green Phoenix 
Permaculture] that you have agreed upon for either program in time to be 
received by us by September 27. After that date, the $100 deposit will be non 
refundable.

CONTACTS: Joan Ewing and Wilton Duckworth 845-687-7646 or 
mamajoane@yahoo.com.  Feel free to contact us with questions. We can also 
refer you to other staff and teachers for specific questions.










            




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Subject: Re: [permaculture] Rainwater harvesting pond story
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As someone who use to work in the engineering department of a Sanitary
District, the slope should not exceed 1:4 (One foot of rise to four feet
of run)

Anything greater than that is unstable and will probably only collapse
over time anyway until it gets to a slope close to that.

Sincerely:

Brent McMillan, Steward of Woodhaven
Avilla, IN, USA

Suraj Kumar wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Your questions are all valid and my ideal shaped pond would have
> looked exactly like a bowl. Minimal surface area, maximum volume. A
> smoothly sloping pond would be, to mathematically put it, made up of
> an infinite number of steps. In my case, its just 3 steps.
>
> Each step decreases surface area of water exposed to sunlight.
>
> However, the JCB operator mentioned in advance that the cost of the
> operation will be proportionally expensive and time consuming - hence
> we had to settle with 3 steps.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>   -Suraj
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Lisa Rollens<rollens@fidnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Very interesting, Suraj, and quite a well done write-up.  I also do not see
>> how the straight sides will stay that way.  Surely they will wash into
>> gentle slopes.  Another consideration...what if someone falls in.  Can they
>> he/she get out or would drowning possibility be high...esp a small child?
>> That would worry me.  Even a dog would have a hard time climbing out 
>> without
>> a slope.
>>
>> Just my first impressions, hope they're useful, Lisa
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Suraj Kumar" <suraj@sunson.in>
>> To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:28 AM
>> Subject: [permaculture] Rainwater harvesting pond story
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> On our tiny acreage farm (1.86 acres), we recently finished building a
>>> 3 stepped 3825 sq.ft. sized pond with a max depth of 22 ft. We had
>>> three goals:
>>>
>>>   1. Store water for irrigation needs during the dry-seasons (post
>>> monsoon and then pre-monsoon)
>>>   2. Conserve the constructed pits / wells / dams / hedges / whatever
>>> structure
>>>   3. Storing run-away water / Retrieving stored water must be doable
>>> using as little energy as possible
>>>
>>> We rented out a backhoe excavator (JCB-3CX) and two tipper tractors
>>> for this job.
>>>
>>> http://wiki.sunson.in/rain_water_harvesting explains the design in
>>> terms of satisfying these above three goals.
>>>
>>> Please feel free to let out your comments!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>  -Suraj
>>>
>>> --
>>> "The Greatest Shortcoming of the Human Race is
>>> our Inability to Understand the Exponential Function"
>>> Dr. Albert Bartlett
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