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["Lisa Rollens" <rollens@fidnet.com>]

Hi everybody,

In a recent organic gardening class that I teach I was passing on info about 
using urine as a fertilizer and nitrogen source.  I encouraged not using 
urine from people using drugs, but didn't know exactly which drugs should not 
be put into the environment.  Hormones seems like a definite no-no, but what 
about blood pressure drugs and all the rest???  I don't think antibiotics are 
a problem...seems like I've read that they break down in compost and in the 
soil.  Would there be a difference if the urine is diluted and used to 
fertilize or put in a compost pile with plenty of high C sources?

Thanks for any help anyone can offer!  Lisa, in the MO Ozarks
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Subject: Re: [permaculture] I've found the real world to be much
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Very true. I have become content with serious incremental lifestyle
changes (like moving away from plastic packaging), while keeping my face
down and watching life thrive. I now understand we have to go there
together, that it is impossible as an island, and for me it is almost
always best to keep my trap shut and lead by example. (or it is not that
I lead but that I will no longer impede nature) At some level it is as
though we are simply turning the pilot light back on. Testing nature,
remembering. If the heat becomes necessary then each of us might add a
small light. -Jeff

Rain Tenaqiya wrote:
>  "I've found the real world to be much more challenging than most people 
> would believe."
>
> Yes, and I think our courses and writing should reflect this fact, instead 
> of promoting instant pie in the sky.  Living sustainably is not easy.  I'm 
> still waiting for the time I can be the reclining designer.  A lot of 
> people regard me as pessimistic, but my attempt to live a permaculture 
> lifestyle has shown me how idealistic (and maybe naive) I still am.
>
> Rain
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