permaculture

[Suraj Kumar <suraj@sunson.in>]

The fundamental problem is we're talking about man made chemicals and
we have no clue on even how they react amongst each other - forget
testing it out with our environment - especially something as old and
complex as "top soil". pH analyses and soil tests are reductionist
views to simplify the complex phenomenon that goes on in reality.
Simplifications are flawed. So if anybody tells you "exactly how much
you need to dilute the urine", tell them they are deluded due to this
Reductionist View of Life and it's phenomenon.

I know my answer isn't going to sound "scientific", but I'd say
"follow your instinct" - pee where you feel like peeing ;) I believe a
lot of our own characteristics are tuned to nature. This thing called
"society" and "culture" makes us disconnect ourselves from that engine
that keeps life going. Its called "instincts". If we shut our
"intellectual brains off" and just followed our instincts, I guess
we'd be a much more harmless species "in harmony" with it's
environment than what we're today.

So, again... just pee where you feel like peeing ;)

Cheers,

  -Suraj

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Lisa Rollens<rollens@fidnet.com> wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> In a recent organic gardening class that I teach I was passing on info 
> about using urine as a fertilizer and nitrogen source.  I encouraged not 
> using urine from people using drugs, but didn't know exactly which drugs 
> should not be put into the environment.  Hormones seems like a definite 
> no-no, but what about blood pressure drugs and all the rest???  I don't 
> think antibiotics are a problem...seems like I've read that they break down 
> in compost and in the soil.  Would there be a difference if the urine is 
> diluted and used to fertilize or put in a compost pile with plenty of high 
> C sources?
>
> Thanks for any help anyone can offer!  Lisa, in the MO Ozarks
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