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[Niels <mudguard@gmail.com>]

yah get me some!
the UK is sooo dull and slow ;-)

Bill McDorman wrote:

> In our county in rural Arizona, Meth use is sky rocketing.  More folks are
> "speeding up", stealing identities and binge spending themselves into
> oblivion.
>
> bill
>
> on 1/30/06 12:58, Scott Vlaun at scott@moosepondarts.com wrote:
>
>  
>
> > As the costs, both economic and physical/psychological, of running
> > the rat race get more expensive, a "major shift in lifestyle and
> > expectations" is inevitable. The movement towards slowing down and
> > consuming less is underway.
> >
> > Scott Vlaun
> > Moose Pond Arts+Ecology
> > Design Solutions for a Sustainable Future
> >
> > 35 Moose Pond Road
> > Otisfield, Maine 04270
> > 207-739-2409 Studio
> > 207-890-4099 Cell
> >
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2006, at 2:49 PM, Shane Perry wrote:
> >
> >    
> >
> > > And the truth is, you should include your last statement as also
> > > unrealistic.  True as it may be, fighting consumerism is a losing
> > > battle. People are too selfish.
> > >
> > > Scott Pittman wrote:
> > >      
> > >
> > > > I have a big problem with the idea of solving a problem with another
> > > > problem.  Ethanol is another pipe-dream that prolongs and accelerates
> > > > the destructive practice of monocropping our top soil out of
> > > > existence.
> > > > If we planted corn wall to wall throughout the corn belt of the
> > > > U.S. we
> > > > wouldn't be able to replace our _current _addiction to petrochemicals
> > > > plus we would have to fertilize using the missing petrochemicals.
> > > > The
> > > > only solution that I see to peak oil reality is to find
> > > > alternatives to
> > > > our energy use, get rid of the individual vehicle, use passive solar
> > > > heat for you home, stop flying, buy within your bioregion and
> > > > etc.  It
> > > > means a major shift in life style and expectations - nothing else is
> > > > realistic.
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > >
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > ----
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject:
> > > > > [permaculture] ETHANOL: How to Beat the High Cost of Gasoline.
> > > > > Forever! - February 06, 2006
> > > > > From:
> > > > > "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>
> > > > > Date:
> > > > > Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:02:30 -0500
> > > > > To:
> > > > > permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > > >
> > > > > To:
> > > > > permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > <http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/
> > > > > 2006/02/06/8367959/index.htm?cnn=yes>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > How to Beat the High Cost of Gasoline. Forever!
> > > > > Stop dreaming about hydrogen. Ethanol is the answer to the energy
> > > > > dilemma. It's clean and green and runs in today's cars. And in a
> > > > > generation, it could replace gas.
> > > > > Fortune Magazine
> > > > >          
> > > >
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