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  • From: Niels <mudguard@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] permaculture Digest, Vol 36, Issue 54
  • Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:09:06 +0000

yah get me some!
the UK is sooo dull and slow ;-)

Bill McDorman wrote:

In our county in rural Arizona, Meth use is sky rocketing. More folks are
"speeding up", stealing identities and binge spending themselves into
oblivion.

bill

on 1/30/06 12:58, Scott Vlaun at scott@moosepondarts.com wrote:


As the costs, both economic and physical/psychological, of running
the rat race get more expensive, a "major shift in lifestyle and
expectations" is inevitable. The movement towards slowing down and
consuming less is underway.

Scott Vlaun
Moose Pond Arts+Ecology
Design Solutions for a Sustainable Future

35 Moose Pond Road
Otisfield, Maine 04270
207-739-2409 Studio
207-890-4099 Cell


On Jan 30, 2006, at 2:49 PM, Shane Perry wrote:


And the truth is, you should include your last statement as also
unrealistic. True as it may be, fighting consumerism is a losing
battle. People are too selfish.

Scott Pittman wrote:

I have a big problem with the idea of solving a problem with another
problem. Ethanol is another pipe-dream that prolongs and accelerates
the destructive practice of monocropping our top soil out of
existence.
If we planted corn wall to wall throughout the corn belt of the
U.S. we
wouldn't be able to replace our _current _addiction to petrochemicals
plus we would have to fertilize using the missing petrochemicals.
The
only solution that I see to peak oil reality is to find
alternatives to
our energy use, get rid of the individual vehicle, use passive solar
heat for you home, stop flying, buy within your bioregion and
etc. It
means a major shift in life style and expectations - nothing else is
realistic.

Scott


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Subject:
[permaculture] ETHANOL: How to Beat the High Cost of Gasoline.
Forever! - February 06, 2006
From:
"Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>
Date:
Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:02:30 -0500
To:
permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>

To:
permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>



<http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/
2006/02/06/8367959/index.htm?cnn=yes>


How to Beat the High Cost of Gasoline. Forever!
Stop dreaming about hydrogen. Ethanol is the answer to the energy
dilemma. It's clean and green and runs in today's cars. And in a
generation, it could replace gas.
Fortune Magazine



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