permaculture

[Bill McDorman <bm@seedsave.org>]

In our county in rural Arizona, Meth use is sky rocketing.  More folks are
"speeding up", stealing identities and binge spending themselves into
oblivion.

bill

on 1/30/06 12:58, Scott Vlaun at scott@moosepondarts.com wrote:

> As the costs, both economic and physical/psychological, of running
> the rat race get more expensive, a "major shift in lifestyle and
> expectations" is inevitable. The movement towards slowing down and
> consuming less is underway.
> 
> Scott Vlaun
> Moose Pond Arts+Ecology
> Design Solutions for a Sustainable Future
> 
> 35 Moose Pond Road
> Otisfield, Maine 04270
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> 
> On Jan 30, 2006, at 2:49 PM, Shane Perry wrote:
> 
>> And the truth is, you should include your last statement as also
>> unrealistic.  True as it may be, fighting consumerism is a losing
>> battle. People are too selfish.
>> 
>> Scott Pittman wrote:
>>> I have a big problem with the idea of solving a problem with another
>>> problem.  Ethanol is another pipe-dream that prolongs and accelerates
>>> the destructive practice of monocropping our top soil out of
>>> existence.
>>> If we planted corn wall to wall throughout the corn belt of the
>>> U.S. we
>>> wouldn't be able to replace our _current _addiction to petrochemicals
>>> plus we would have to fertilize using the missing petrochemicals.
>>> The
>>> only solution that I see to peak oil reality is to find
>>> alternatives to
>>> our energy use, get rid of the individual vehicle, use passive solar
>>> heat for you home, stop flying, buy within your bioregion and
>>> etc.  It
>>> means a major shift in life style and expectations - nothing else is
>>> realistic.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Subject:
>>>> [permaculture] ETHANOL: How to Beat the High Cost of Gasoline.
>>>> Forever! - February 06, 2006
>>>> From:
>>>> "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>
>>>> Date:
>>>> Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:02:30 -0500
>>>> To:
>>>> permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
>>>> 
>>>> To:
>>>> permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/
>>>> 2006/02/06/8367959/index.htm?cnn=yes>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> How to Beat the High Cost of Gasoline. Forever!
>>>> Stop dreaming about hydrogen. Ethanol is the answer to the energy
>>>> dilemma. It's clean and green and runs in today's cars. And in a
>>>> generation, it could replace gas.
>>>> Fortune Magazine
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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